Apple Seeks Tariff Waivers on iPhone Components, Apple Watch, AirPods and More

[JagdTiger]

Since 2001, right wing extremists have been responsible for almost 3x the number of terrorist attacks in the U.S. versus Islamic extremists. So the first order of business in the United States if you supported banning people for public safety reasons should logically be right wing extremists.

How do you know they are right winged? because the mainstream press tells you this?, could they be left winged?...it has been said a lot that of that violence came from people on neuroleptic drugs.

 

[jonblatho]

And hope some off the rails (or should I say on the rails) sleazy corrupt grifter doesn’t wake up one morning and decide what’s really important today is increasing tariffs on armchairs.

Via Twitter dot com, no less.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

Apple has a duty to the stockholders to maximize value, it's as simple as that.

All the armchair CEO's are clueless...

It's not just a duty he has a legal obligation to do so.

 

[rjp1]

Please get rid of Tim China already.

 

[IIGS User]

All my Apple stuff is new enough to wait it out for a while. Most my most recent purchases were below my usual Expectations for quality. So I purchased with my AMEX for the double length warranty (AppleCare is an overpriced waste, IMHO) and have more than a year left on all my stuffs.

by the time I’m in a buying mood again, this will be resolved one way or another. Passing it along to the consumer wont work. People have all ready shown their aers when it comes to $1,000 telephones. Those days are pretty much over.

I see Apple eating the difference to maintain market share to drive more people to their service offerings. That’s where the next cash cow lives..

 

[Marekul]

Still proves your original comment that they “completely” moved out of China as false. And that doesn’t include component purchases that end up in a device, even if the final device is assembled outside of China.

I laugh at the hypocrisy in this thread about China when people are posting messages using computers that were either made in China or have parts from China. Why don’t you all go through your house and throw out everything from China and see what you’re left with.

Then you can lecture companies about where they make things.

So by that logic - i must get rid of all apple products before i am allowed to complain about apple? Or i must move out of my country before i am allowed to complain about politics? Or dump my car before being allowed to complain about traffic?

 

[realtuner]

So by that logic - i must get rid of all apple products before i am allowed to complain about apple? Or i must move out of my country before i am allowed to complain about politics? Or dump my car before being allowed to complain about traffic?

Never said that. Just calling out the hypocrites.

 

[kis]

Still proves your original comment that they “completely” moved out of China as false. And that doesn’t include component purchases that end up in a device, even if the final device is assembled outside of China.

I laugh at the hypocrisy in this thread about China when people are posting messages using computers that were either made in China or have parts from China. Why don’t you all go through your house and throw out everything from China and see what you’re left with.

Then you can lecture companies about where they make things.

There’s zero justification that Apple still produces in a country where human rights count nothing and that’s led by an evil dictatorship which extends its tentacles into every single one of the Chinese businesses. And Apple continue their brown-nosing efforts by torpedoing freedom of speech efforts in Hong Kong.

 

[iMi]

I would like a “waver” on the products I am importing. Where do I sign up?

 

[Onelifenofear]

The idea, Tim, is that you should be offshoring your production from China to a country that is less inclined to steal your intellectual property and more inclined to support free trade agreements in general. I‘m pretty sure that there are other countries other than China too with Universities that you can join as a director. Get with the program. Be an American.

America doesn't have the workforce skillset, Tooling experts or education system that allows for targeted learning. It's not that American education is bad but it's broad and slow.

 

[citysnaps]

There’s zero justification that Apple still produces in a country where human rights count nothing and that’s led by an evil dictatorship which extends its tentacles into every single one of the Chinese businesses. And Apple continue their brown-nosing efforts by torpedoing freedom of speech efforts in Hong Kong.

That's a fine stand. Have you backed that up by taking personal responsibility refusing to purchase any products manufactured in China?

 

[hugodrax]

Would you still buy an iphone at 3 times its current price?

how did you come to this calculation?

 

[JagdTiger]

America doesn't have the workforce skillset, Tooling experts or education system that allows for targeted learning. It's not that American education is bad but it's broad and slow.

The politicians fault but also the union workers because they were given broken promises by both parties which reneged on any deals.
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So by that logic - i must get rid of all apple products before i am allowed to complain about apple? Or i must move out of my country before i am allowed to complain about politics? Or dump my car before being allowed to complain about traffic?

Yea, that would be the political correct way to do it.

 

[Irock619]

Apple is a well run company. Just posted their latest financials with almost 40% profit margin. Yet they are requesting relief on tariffs. A well run fortune 500 company doesn't need relief, they should stand by their American values and take a hit. Trump already recognized companies like Samsung will have the advantage as a foreign company in the same market, and will do something to level the playing field.

 

[beaker7]

Apple is a well run company. Just posted their latest financials with almost 40% profit margin. Yet they are requesting relief on tariffs. A well run fortune 500 company doesn't need relief, they should stand by their American values and take a hit. Trump already recognized companies like Samsung will have the advantage as a foreign company in the same market, and will do something to level the playing field.

Why should Apple sacrifice themselves to pay for Trump’s economic policy?

 

[kis]

That's a fine stand. Have you backed that up by taking personal responsibility refusing to purchase any products manufactured in China?

As a matter of fact, I avoid Chinese products whenever possible. My garage door motor is made in Spain, my alarm system in Tunisia, none of my clothes are made in China, my TV is made in Poland, my shoes are Italian, my car is made in Canada, none of my furniture is from China either. Coming to think of it, I actually don’t own a lot of Chinese products - except those made by Apple.

 

[citysnaps]

Why should Apple sacrifice themselves to pay for Trump’s economic policy?

Exactly. People think Apple's 38% "profit" goes right into the bank. But that's gross profit margin (GPM). Apple's net profit margin, after operating expenses (employee payroll and benefits, rents, utilities, marketing, maintenance, insurance, legal, and on and on) and federal/state/local taxes, is around 20%.

Compare that 20% NPM to the tariffs and you'll see why eventually they're usually passed on to the consumer. It's a hidden tax that goes straight to the US Treasury. And the US debt, now at >$23 trillion continues to climb.

The current US tariffs are terrible economic "policy."

 

[kis]

Exactly. People think Apple's 38% "profit" goes right into the bank. But that's gross profit margin (GPM). Apple's net profit margin, after operating expenses (employee payroll and benefits, rents, utilities, marketing, maintenance, insurance, legal, and on and on) and federal/state/local taxes, is around 20%.

Compare that 20% NPM to the tariffs and you'll see why eventually they're usually passed on to the consumer. It's a hidden tax that goes straight to the US Treasury. And the US debt, now at >$23 trillion continues to climb.

The current US tariffs are terrible economic "policy."

Why should Apple pay for this? The American population voted Trump into office and large parts of it still supports the guy - so Apple should pass the price hikes on to the American consumer. Why? Because otherwise people simply don't realise what it means to have someone like Trump for their president.

 

[beaker7]

Why should Apple pay for this? The American population voted Trump into office and large parts of it still supports the guy - so Apple should pass the price hikes on to the American consumer. Why? Because otherwise people simply don't realise what it means to have someone like Trump for their president.

It should be added as a line item on the invoice. Transparency is best.

 

[5232152]

Apple has a duty to the stockholders to maximize value, it's as simple as that.

All the armchair CEO's are clueless...

Long term value as well as short term. And yes, I would now

 

[Brandhouse]

I think that's because a lot of people have an aversion to facts.

Maybe it's more to do with The Great Idiot Leader with his, "great and unmatched wisdom" is actually starting to kill your economy, let alone the rest of the world's. But the MAGA zombies can't see beyond their blind subservience.

 

[Wando64]

The only people paying the price of tariffs are ultimately the consumers.
You can delude yourselves otherwise if you want, but it will not change the outcome.

 

[citysnaps]

Maybe it's more to do with The Great Idiot Leader with his, "great and unmatched wisdom" is actually starting to kill your economy, let alone the rest of the world's. But the MAGA zombies can't see beyond their blind subservience.

Absolutely no disagreement there.

 

[thasan]

Well with the average time a person uses their phone (3 years), and with great 0% financing options, i sure would and not play games with countries who steal IP and oppress their people. There’s your 3x’s the price.

So you never buy anything from china cause they oppress their people? Unless you live in a cave, thats nearly impossible these days.

 

[predation]

So you never buy anything from china cause they oppress their people? Unless you live in a cave, thats nearly impossible these days.

Of course it’s impossible in this day in age of globalization, but when I can, I do. ??‍♂️
Some of you guys are so literal and myopic.