Battery life has been outstanding on my 11 Pro Max. And this feature, remember Apple’s response is performing as designed, has not caused any problems on our 5 devices. And we have all location services enabled. Anyone who dislikes the feature can offer feedback requests on their site. I have for a few other changes I’m not crazy about in 13. However with all the actual serious bugs in 13 they have to fix I wouldn’t expect any changes until ios 14.
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This increases our changes...
It's starting to spread around in the media, on news-sites, tech-sites and of course on twitter. To quote one site which brings it excatly onto the point:
However, the way iOS’s location and privacy settings are set up, it’s easy to assume a user has complete control over all location data access. But the Apple engineer’s answer seems to imply there are location services that Apple doesn’t advertise—and that it doesn’t give users control over.
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@papbot I value your opinion and this board is free speach for all of the users; but is it possible for you to stop pointing out that all of your 5 devices are working like a charm, you've location services activated and stop pointing out that we can use the Feedback form? I've read that now very often from you in this thread. It's okay to have an opinion and to post it, but please respect that we do have a problem with that issue. Several Users have a problem with this bug or feature or whatever this is now. We all know (and sent) feedback to Apple already. And we are concerned about this, doesn't matter what it is.
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I not respect your opinion and please more not publish his in this topic. You have no problem, don't come in here.
Are you paid by Apple? Nooooooo. NDA has completed its action, will reveal a terrible secret!
I completely agree with you. We continue to send bug reports to Apple every day.
And we should all continue to report issues we believe we are having. 13 is full of them still but has gotten better. In Apple’s hierarchy of things to fix I’m not sure where this falls. I also wonder whether it’s always functioned this way but something in 13 now reveals the arrow when previously it would not be seen. It’s also possible they could just change that behavior to not trigger the arrow but the function, whatever it is, remains the same. Either way I’m still pissed at the issues I’m currently having and am losing hope that they will be resolved, at least in this current ios.
Turning off location for weather did it for me. No more location arrow once you turn it off. Until fixed it is what it is. Hope this helps.
This article was just listed on iPhone Hacks: Apple Confirms iPhone 11 Pro Collects Location Data Even with Location Services Disabled.
Here’s the link: http://www.iphonehacks.com/2019/12/apple-confirms-iphone-11-pro-collects-location-data-disabled.html
Here’s the link: http://www.iphonehacks.com/2019/12/apple-confirms-iphone-11-pro-collects-location-data-disabled.html
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In the future, Apple plans to provide a dedicated toggle that will turn off the ultra wideband technology and thus disallow the background location tracking that's currently going on.
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Well at least you know it’s not a bug. They designed it to operate this way. The toggle to shut down location services totally would be kinda drastic. What happens when you use gps or set a location based reminder or use Find My, or a weather app. Seems like you either use these features, accept the arrow or give them up entirely and cripple your phone.
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In the future, Apple plans to provide a dedicated toggle that will turn off the ultra wideband technology and thus disallow the background location tracking that's currently going on.
We have to wait. Hope this update doesn't take long.
Seems like you still don’t know the issue or don’t want to know, we are not talking about toggle of entire location service, Apple already provide that.
Apple admitted there is a bug in u1 chip which collect your location and apples doesn’t provide toggle for that to turn that off like other system service ie compass, time zone etc.
So in future update Apple will provide toggle to turn that off, not everyone like you enable all system service and some people prefer to know which system service is using the location.
As all these articles have stated it is expected behavior not a bug. This article states the future toggle would totally disable location services. If correct that is pretty drastic. You may not want all location services turned on as I do but do you want them all off all the time?
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"In the future, Apple plans to provide a dedicated toggle that will turn off the ultra wideband technology and thus disallow the background location tracking that's currently going on."
And the other article says something different. It says, as shown, total blocking of location services. However this is all speculation, no one here or in those publications knows what Apple will actually provide. If it is a toggle just to shut down that chip then it would only be provided to iPhone 11 users. But looking through these threads it seems others have been complaining not just 11 users.
I am curious, if it does just shut down that chip will most of you use it or will just knowing that it is the source of what you’re seeing be enough? Just curious. If it shuts down location services entirely I can’t see many wanting to do that.
I am curious, if it does just shut down that chip will most of you use it or will just knowing that it is the source of what you’re seeing be enough? Just curious. If it shuts down location services entirely I can’t see many wanting to do that.
I don't think they will change anything in this beta; it was just too short between the media attention and the release. I assume maybe in some of the next beta's. But hey, it's good they released a statement and promising a switch now- anyway, it's a communication "desaster" for their marketing team.
If Ultra-Wideband is not allowed due to location (whatever this means, i've never heard before that this is maybe not allowed somewhere), I assume they'll place a switch just to switch this chip off. And honestly, we've lived without it so far and still using "Find my iPhone", "Tile" or any other Trackers without this Chip.
Anyway, Im curious where Ultra-Wideband won't be allowed and what would be the reasons for it.
Ultra-Wideband is blocked in Russia and CIS countries. The decree "on Communication" says that these frequencies used by U1 are prohibited.
Well, i don't think they made any changes yet (in iOS 13.3), but maybe we'll get another beta soon? Let's cross our fingers.