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MP All Models Is Apple ****ing themselves over the ThreadRipper 3 yet?
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RedGamingTech, Really?
People will take you seriously if you can find better sources than Chiphell leaks or some youtuber dealing with clickbait rumors. ?
Did it ever occur to you that Apple might have made it up? Apple can certainly keep stuff out of public builds they don't want to be there. They can also put anything in a public build they want to, knowing that people mine these things for information.
Did it ever occur to you that Van Gogh codename was known BEFORE Apple put it in the Catalina Beta?
Apple made up a codename that was known from Silicon that was changing hands.
Yeah... I have never read anything more funny on any tech forum. And I have to put it this way to not sound impolite.
You do realize that he has found sources and summed all of the information in clear way?
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It has nothing to do with rumormongering. But hey. Everyone can be resistant to some things.
Let me sum up some things for those who do not understand what Semi-Custom is.
Van Gogh's codename was found from physical silicon changing hands. It means that it IS ALREADY EXISTING.
And yet not on a single one of AMD's roadmap of products. Why? Because it comes from Semi-Custom division.
Why has it appeared it in MacOS Catalina?
Because its Apple who ordered the design.
Why simple things are so complex for people who are resistant to changes?
If I were resistant to change, I wouldn't have lasted this long in the industry.
But I also know better than to cut off possibilities prematurely. Sure, Van Gogh could be what you say it is. But there are also many other possibilities. I, quite frankly, find it hard to believe that notoriously secretive Apple is leaking true information through public releases. I think it is far more likely to be misdirection and/or messaging.
But I also know better than to cut off possibilities prematurely. Sure, Van Gogh could be what you say it is. But there are also many other possibilities. I, quite frankly, find it hard to believe that notoriously secretive Apple is leaking true information through public releases. I think it is far more likely to be misdirection and/or messaging.
He actually has a track record......
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You either tell them what you want or you design it and they make it. AMD does it with a bunch of folks. The Ryzen 5 3500 is an example - it is made for 1 market (China).
I was being sarcastic, that person had "informed" us all about 100 times over the past handful of days.
Tangential to this forum thread, but discussed. ARM in HPC, hmmmm -
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amazon-web-services-takes-on-intel-with-64-core-arm-graviton2
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15169/a-success-on-arm-for-hpc-we-found-a-fujitsu-a64fx-wafer
and, as always, a hot take from LTT, which is pretty much spot on at this point...sorry, Intel, you’re failing -
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amazon-web-services-takes-on-intel-with-64-core-arm-graviton2
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15169/a-success-on-arm-for-hpc-we-found-a-fujitsu-a64fx-wafer
and, as always, a hot take from LTT, which is pretty much spot on at this point...sorry, Intel, you’re failing -
Jayz had a similar video where he dumped prototype Intel chips all over the table in disgust for how/what Intel did to "try" to compete with the Threadripper.
And guys, as it's been mentioned many times, this is only 2019 and there's considerable backlash against Intel already. 2020 it will hit peak levels.
Kinda makes it bittersweet for me with the new Mac Pro and their new, purposeful shrunken market segment. They've flipped off many of the potential Mac Pro buyers, and now they will probably start eating crow.
And guys, as it's been mentioned many times, this is only 2019 and there's considerable backlash against Intel already. 2020 it will hit peak levels.
Kinda makes it bittersweet for me with the new Mac Pro and their new, purposeful shrunken market segment. They've flipped off many of the potential Mac Pro buyers, and now they will probably start eating crow.
Good Lord. Decades of Apple is DOOMED! And now we've switched to Intel is DOOMED! I look forward to Alienware Threadripper builds in Dune cases showing the Mac Pro's utter inadequacy.
Why would Apple eat crow? The Mac Pro will run Final Cut Pro just like it’s supposed to, regardless of how many threads AMD can rip.
Why would Apple eat crow? The Mac Pro will run Final Cut Pro just like it’s supposed to, regardless of how many threads AMD can rip.
Very true - at the end of the day, the 7,1 is just a dongle for Final Cut Pro and Logic.
And I suspect that the largest single buyer of these will be the folks making content for TV+.
And the PP/Avid/… crowd has already switched platforms...
Precisely! Anyone that cares about the fastest performance in cross platform software switched long ago. Those concerned about the fastest performance for FCPX just buys the fastest Mac they can afford. No avian dining required
ill be the first one to admit, my sole reasoning to get the 7,1 is FCPX.
What is bizarre about it?
The reason we had the cheesegraters originally was because of P.T. Barnum's connection with Pixar.
I am quite sure that Timmy wants those TV+ shows developed with Apple hardware and software.
Until the press NDA was lifted, I thought that the AVX-512 instruction set would give the 7,1 a chance. Nope.
What is a different compelling reason to use a 7,1?
The 7,1 has a series of Xeons that will perform below what a Zen 2 Threadripper is capable of.
It has half the I/O speed of a TR system.
No modern video cards at launch. Have fun paying for that RX5500XTMPX.
No future upgrade path. Between Intel's socket of the month strategy and it's deathmarch to 10nm (it will happen by the end of 2021), there won't be any 14nm++++++++++++++++++ Xeons to move to.
The 7,1 will be even more of a cul-de-sac in Apple's walled garden than the 6,1.
7.1 supports up to 1.5TB of Registered ECC Memory on 6-Channel, while Threadripper 3 "supports" up to 256GB with spotty ECC support on quad channel. I am sure there are usecases 7.1 will have beyond what T3 systems could provide for memory intensive operations. It is not just the matter of processing power, otherwise, Threadrippers would have made every EPYC out there irrelevant.
I doubt people would care much about "upgrade path" when they will simply change the entire rig when it is time for another upgrade. Apple has clearly moved away from "DIY" minded enthusiasts ever since they stepped away from 5.1 (7.1 is made to be easily serviceable and expandable within Apple's ecosystem, but they definitely not encouraging users doing their own "upgrades"). If you really care about "upgrade path" and more of a DIYer willing to provide every upgrade for your own machine, then you are better served on elsewhere other than Apple.
I am not sure why you decided to keep complaining for several months repeating same points over and over even after Apple has already decided on specs when your particular usecase is better served on Window machine with Threadripper and Nvidia GPU.
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Then use EPYC. Technically, both Threadripper and EPYC have identical hardware parts.
Sure, you could. Then you have to decide if trading off the processing power for more memory support is worth it in your usage scenario.