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errorlog

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Alive and kicking...
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wicknix

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Just an FYI, the 9200 is a bit laggy in LXDE when dragging windows around. I don't think it handles compositing too well. If that bothers you, you can install compton, or just use openbox (installed by default), icewm, jwm, fvwm etc, and the laggy dragging goes away.

Cheers
 

errorlog

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I played with my Mini G4 and overclocked from 1.33 GHz to 1.75 GHz-

The PPC 4747 CPU supports DFS (dynamic frquency scaling) Klick

Is there a way to aktivate this feature in Lubuntu?

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errorlog

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I tried to install x11vnc the same way as I installed it on my Intel Linux Mint.

On the client my vnc viewer shows the password dialog, but it won`t open to the desktop.

Code:
root@PHOBOS:~# systemctl status x11vnc
● x11vnc.service - Start x11vnc at startup.
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/x11vnc.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Do 2019-11-07 04:49:42 CET; 13h ago
Main PID: 956 (x11vnc)
   CGroup: /system.slice/x11vnc.service
           └─956 /usr/bin/x11vnc -geometry 1680x1050 -auth guess -forever -noxdamage -repeat -rfbauth /etc/x11vnc.pass -rfbport 5900 -shared

Nov 07 06:21:46 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 06:21:46  TOTALS              :      0 |         0/        0 (  0.0%)
Nov 07 18:26:37 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:37 Got connection from client 192.168.5.63
Nov 07 18:26:37 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:37   other clients:
Nov 07 18:26:37 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:37 Normal socket connection
Nov 07 18:26:37 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:37 incr accepted_client=3 for 192.168.5.63:53899  sock=12
Nov 07 18:26:37 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:37 Client Protocol Version 3.8
Nov 07 18:26:37 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:37 Protocol version sent 3.8, using 3.8
Nov 07 18:26:37 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:37 rfbProcessClientSecurityType: executing handler for type 2
Nov 07 18:26:42 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:42 client useCopyRect: 192.168.5.63 0
Nov 07 18:26:42 PHOBOS x11vnc[956]: 07/11/2019 18:26:42 client_set_net: 192.168.5.63  0.0027


The last try of my vncx11.service:

Code:
[Unit]
Description=Start x11vnc at startup.
After=multi-user.target

[Service]
Type=simple
# ExecStart=/usr/bin/x11vnc -geometry 1680x1050 -auth guess -forever -loop -noxdamage -repeat -rfbauth /etc/x11vnc.pass -rfbport 5900 -shared
ExecStart=/usr/bin/x11vnc -geometry 1680x1050 -auth guess -forever -noxdamage -repeat -rfbauth /etc/x11vnc.pass -rfbport 5900 -shared
Restart=always
RestartSec=5

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

Who can help?
 

Hughmac

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Live DVD working fine on my PowerBook DLSD, however I couldn't get it to boot on my Pismo with G4 550 :(

Do you think the Live USB version would be able to boot from a firewire drive being as the Pismo only has USB 1 ports?

Cheers :)

Hugh
 

chicago-joe

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I read through the thread (great job BTW wickinx) and I don't see anyone running this on a PCI-E Quad 2.5 MHz G5. I played around with the live DVD and I get past the splash screen but blocks of odd colored squares on blue background and the system stalls. I have Nvidea 7800GT and FX4500 (PCI-E) cards and a Radeon 1900XT card; all three cards work fine with OSX 10.5. I've tried all the Yaboot parameters in this thread with all 3 cards and no luck. Does anyone know if 16.04 is useable with the Quad 2.5 MHz G5 system at all?

Joe
 

wicknix

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@Hughmac : I'd be interested to know if that'd work myself.

@chicago-joe : The fx4500 should work if you disable acceleration. Seems those 3 cards you have don't fare too well in ppc linux from what i've read. I'd check ebay for a radeon 9600, or nvidia fx5200 if you want decent gfx in linux on a G5. Anyway, try booting using the fx4500 with nouveau.noaccel=1 and see if that gives you a usable desktop.

Cheers
 
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chicago-joe

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@Hughmac : I'd be interested to know if that'd work myself.

@chicago-joe : The fx4500 should work if you disable acceleration. Seems those 3 cards you have don't fare too well in ppc linux from what i've read. I'd check ebay for a radeon 9600, or nvidia fx5200 if you want decent gfx in linux on a G5. Anyway, try booting using the fx4500 with nouveau.noaccel=1 and see if that gives you a usable desktop.

Cheers
With the fx4500, "nouveau.noaccel=1" allowed me to run live from the DVD and install Lubuntu. Yea! When I restart from the HD, I'm back to garbled desktop. Is there any way to pass that switch on to Linux when starting the system from the HD or edit it to a config file from the live DVD post facto?

Sorry if this is a Linux 101 matter, not much experience with it.

Thanks,

Joe
 

wicknix

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Cool. Yes, At the "boot:" prompt boot from HD with: Linux nouveau.noaccel=1 ,then once booted open a terminal and type: sudo mcedit /etc/yaboot.conf and add nouveau.noaccel=1 to the "append" line, then hit esc+2 to save, then esc+0 to exit the editor. Now type: sudo ybin -v to write the changes to the bootloader. Reboot and behold the glory. :)

Cheers
 

chicago-joe

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Cool. Yes, At the "boot:" prompt boot from HD with: Linux nouveau.noaccel=1 ,then once booted open a terminal and type: sudo mcedit /etc/yaboot.conf and add nouveau.noaccel=1 to the "append" line, then hit esc+2 to save, then esc+0 to exit the editor. Now type: sudo ybin -v to write the changes to the bootloader. Reboot and behold the glory. :)

Cheers

Thanks. I had searched around and got it running. Even without graphics acceleration, everything runs well, the gears benchmark runs at 61 FPS. Only problem is that videos are playing in odd colors in Spider. Will try the PCIE 6600 this week and see how it works. Many thanks for the remix and help.

Joe
 

wicknix

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Sweet. Yeah the reversed colors in spiderweb is normal. It's an endianess issue i haven't pinpointed yet. Use arctic fox for videos, or use the viewtube script with grease monkey and browser-plugin-vlc to use vlc as spiderwebs video backend for normal colors. Also your quad as you noticed should have no issue using the cpu for video, vs the disabled gpu.

Cheers
 

TheShortTimer

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To install: Grab a spare USB stick (4gb minimum) and back up its contents somewhere. Format the USB drive (msdos/fat32 or just zero it out).
Then insert the drive and verify you know where its located. In my case it was /dev/sdc. Use df -h to list which device it is.
Write the ubuntu.img to it with dd. Example: dd if=/path/to/ubuntu-remix-persistent-usb.img of=/dev/sdc bs=4096

I cannot get this to work and for the life of me, I do not know why, as this is something I have done in the past when I'd use my Mac to create bootable USB sticks to install Linux or Mac OS X for that matter, on other computers.

Here's the target device within Disk Utility on El Capitan:

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Typing the following:

Code:
sudo dd if=~/Desktop/ubuntu-remix-live-usb.img of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=1m

Produces this seemingly successful result:

Code:
3821+1 records in
3821+1 records out
4007624704 bytes transferred in 910.211490 secs (4402960 bytes/sec)

Yet when I attempt to inspect my handiwork, I receive this message:

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I reformatted the USB on a Windows PC and then ran the command again from the Mac and yet again, it failed to produce a working installer.

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Where am I going wrong here?
 

z970

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On the flipside, that's how you know it worked. :)

As you restore the image to it, the partitions get reformatted to Ext4 (native Linux), which neither macOS or Windows support. Thus, the OS doesn't know what to do with it, and promptly suggests reformatting.

Curiously, I don't believe this is the case with discs. There, burning the image is a lot more straightforward, and you get to explore its contents afterward. The downside of course, is that this is a slower and more wasteful method...

Anyway, just stick it into your machine, reboot into OF, and review the Linux Wiki's 'Flash / Boot from USB' guide. It's foolproof stuff. ;)

(Hey, I didn't go to all that trouble only for the entire thing to be ignored.)
 
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TheShortTimer

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On the flipside, that's how you know it worked. :)

As you restore the image to it, the partitions get reformatted to Ext4 (native Linux), which neither macOS or Windows support. Thus, the OS doesn't know what to do with it, and promptly suggests reformatting.

Ah, I didn't even realise that I had nearly succeeded due to proprietary issues!

...Curiously, I don't believe this is the case with discs. There, burning the image is a lot more straightforward, and you get to explore its contents afterward.

That's right and this contributed towards the confusion. On both my PCs and Macs, I've always been able to inspect the burned DVD/CD because the file structure is different. Perhaps I'd forgotten about the "initialise" message because I hadn't created a Linux stick for a while.

Anyway, just stick it into your machine, reboot into OF...

Did exactly that and from OF, I typed in:

Code:
boot usb0/disk@1:,\\yaboot

Hooray! :D

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...and review the Linux Wiki's 'Flash / Boot from USB' guide. It's foolproof stuff. ;)

(Hey, I didn't go to all that trouble only for the entire thing to be ignored.)

Fair enough! There's no audio functionality and selecting suspend causes the iBook to freeze with a black screen and a static cursor, so I'll need to take some time and read through to see how these issues can be resolved. The main thing is that it finally worked. Thanks for helping to get me over the line. :)
 
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TheShortTimer

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Initial impressions are definitely extremely positive, especially given that the OS is booting and running via USB1.1. I'd wager that the performance would see a sharp boost if I ran it from a partition on the HDD - but this will require an upgrade to a larger HDD or an SSD.

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A few issues so far on my iBook G3/500:

As the boot up phase progresses, the Mini VGA output appears to turn off and remains turned off during the entire session. It is only restored when I reboot and use Tiger instead.

I'm unable to get the sound to work, even after booting with the "persistent" parameter and using the fix as suggested by @z970mp in the Linux Wiki.

It appears that the display settings are using only 256 colours instead of the full colour depth but there's no option to change it in the monitor configuration panel.

The Software Updater hangs: I've left it for hours and without any change.

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The GUI suffers from glitches like these with "empty" windows:

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On the plus side, I managed to correct the power management problems and hopefully in a subsequent release, the above issues will be resolved because this looks promising. :)
 

wicknix

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Weird. What video card is in that? It might just be a matter of passing the correct yaboot parameter at boot to resolve the colors/empty looking Windows. Not sure why your updater hangs though, or sound won't work. None of these are issues on newer machines however. My gut feeling is either A) mac dd didn't 100% properly write the .img, or B) we need to figure out your gfx card and sound card so we can tweak it to work better on your device. Surprised it's even usable at 500mhz. ;)

Do you have another machine you can test that usb stick with? Just to narrow down if it's that or not?

Cheers
 
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