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TheralSadurns

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It suggests passwords from other words rather than just random characters.

As I said they’re not particularly memorable IMO
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Huntn

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I’ve nor scanned this entire thread, but I think a mention or discussion (if it’s not here) about where data can be entered now in the Machintosh HD volume under Catalina. You just can’t create a folder in that top folder level, (unless it is a smart folder), you have to get down into the User folder. I’ve been able to add data to the Document folder, but have not explored where else you can or can’t add data To.
 

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I’ve nor scanned this entire thread, but I think a mention or discussion (if it’s not here) about where data can be entered now in the Machintosh HD volume under Catalina. You just can’t create a folder in that top folder level, (unless it is a smart folder), you have to get down into the User folder. I’ve been able to add data to the Document folder, but have not explored where else you can or can’t add data To.
You can add them to /System/Volumes/Data which is your writeable root partition.
 
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Huntn

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You can add them to /System/Volumes/Data which is your writeable root partition.
I see Macintosh HD/System/Volumes/Macinstosh HD. I don't understand what I"m seeing. The Second Macintosh HD looks like a little replica HD of the Macinstosh HD at the top level. Is this right?

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I see Macintosh HD/System/Volumes/Macinstosh HD. I don't understand what I"m seeing. The Second Macintosh HD looks like a little replica HD of the Macinstosh HD at the top level. Is this right?

That's what you see in Finder. The actual path is /System/Volumes/Data. It's confusing as heck, I know.

But yes, essentially Catalina splits your volume into two partitions, only one of which is writeable to preserve the integrity of the system. The Macintosh HD you are seeing there is the writeable one.
 

bakerzdosen

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Thanks for confirming that.

And I didn't find ALL of them memorable, but they often would be a good start to some of my favorite passwords. (That's the problem with passwords I suppose: you come up with a great one and then you can share it with anyone...)
 

cool11

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So now, for the first time in history, I cannot create a folder inside the root of my hard disk.
 

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That's what you see in Finder. The actual path is /System/Volumes/Data. It's confusing as heck, I know.

But yes, essentially Catalina splits your volume into two partitions, only one of which is writeable to preserve the integrity of the system. The Macintosh HD you are seeing there is the writeable one.
Completely confusing. For user sanity, it would make sense to me that if they want to split the Macintosh HD into a read only and write capable halves, then the write capable half must be distinguished with a designation like “data” like it shows when you look in Disk Utility- Macintosh HD-Data. That makes complete sense. It’s illogical and confusing to have two seperate or split volumes with the same name when you look at them in the Finder.

I’m just using the Document section of the Macintosh HD to add my data.
 
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So now, for the first time in history, I cannot create a folder inside the root of my hard disk.
Smart Folder you can. I know that's not what you want. ? It's not necessarily a bad idea to protect the OS, but I don't understand why you can't see Macintosh HD- Data on your desktop and put data there. I've just settled for putting my data on my MBP in a folder under user>Documents.
 
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Earl Urley

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The image on the App Store of the Catalina installer appears to have been updated from 15.0.32 to 15.0.33, hopefully the Supplemental Update has been slipstreamed in or whatever.
 
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cool11

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Smart Folder you can. I know that's not what you want. ? It's not necessarily a bad idea to protect the OS, but I don't understand why you can't see Macintosh HD- Data on your desktop and put data there. I've just settled for putting my data on my MBP in a folder under user>Documents.

Creating folders in 'users' folder, seem now as the only option. Am I wrong?
I have put a favorite shortcut of some folders in the left pane of finder, as I can't find any better solution as an alternative to my previous choice of having some important folders of mine directly in the root.
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The image on the App Store of the Catalina installer appears to have been updated from 15.0.32 to 15.0.33, hopefully the Supplemental Update has been slipstreamed in or whatever.
Is this available through software update?
Or if there is a download link to download the dmg it is the same for me.
 
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ErikGrim

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What does having them in the root of the drive 'solve' or 'help', vs having them in your home/user folder?
Lots of edge cases for developers here. We store our web server environments in /srv/ for instance - and that has to be the same across all platforms. So now we require special configurations for all developers who have upgraded to Catalina.
 

Huntn

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Creating folders in 'users' folder, seem now as the only option. Am I wrong?
I have put a favorite shortcut of some folders in the left pane of finder, as I can't find any better solution as an alternative to my previous choice of having some important folders of mine directly in the root.
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Is this available through software update?
Or if there is a download link to download the dmg it is the same for me.
I do that too, plus stick Folder aliases on right side of the dock, but I did that before Catalina. I‘ve got 3 folder aliases and 2 sparseimage aliases there. :)

Also, yesterday I got a Catalina update through software update, about 900mb worth, if that is what you are referencing. I was surprised that it’s label was just OS15 with no little numbers visible on the main label.
 
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Aquamite

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Can anybody please post all the new stock app icons from macOS Catalina in their original .icns file format?

I mean the following apps whose icons are new for Catalina: Music, TV, Podcasts, Books, App Store, Reminders, Contacts and DVD Player.

Thank you.
 

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Lots of edge cases for developers here. We store our web server environments in /srv/ for instance - and that has to be the same across all platforms. So now we require special configurations for all developers who have upgraded to Catalina.
I’m not going to argue with you, but it doesn’t have to be the same. I’ve developed tooling and documentation and provided support for developers on all three desktop OS for at least a decade and “we need this one absolute path to be the same on all machines” has literally never come up.
 

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I’m not going to argue with you, but it doesn’t have to be the same. I’ve developed tooling and documentation and provided support for developers on all three desktop OS for at least a decade and “we need this one absolute path to be the same on all machines” has literally never come up.
I know. But either way it requires changes to our existing workflow.
 

Tech198

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Anyway to get subvert this: It's starting to be very anonying unless i start adding everything to System Preferences first (Files & Folders):

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Although it would be for security, i know what i do and give access to.. without being reminded
 

cool11

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Am I the only one that I find that 'reminders' are almost ruined in catalina?
The previous days, I checked tasks as completed, and they never gone away. In the previous versions, just pressing delete button erased them completely. Now I have to erase them by right clicking delete in touchpad.

More than this, now I cannot find how I can have my tasks sorted in the most logical way, today's, tomorrow's, and so on!!!!! I want a separator between days, as it was before!
Altogether with no sense!!!!

Please help!
:(
 
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cool11

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Clicking Scheduled sorts like that for me.

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Why I am not seeing such icons? Where they are located? Or how can I display them?

Here is what I see
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Also, sorting method is always lost, when I run the app! Every time I have to manually select the 'due order' that is the way I want it. Why it loses the sorting order?
 
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