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rmpbklyn

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cisco any connect and comodo av stopped working

it states flipformac is incompatible, need this for streaming

nagware- photo agent, took over my default camera importing app

maps is very slow, more usable on a phone/tablet

the recents keeps showing duplicate of the recent app, eg if I open firefox 4 times , it list it 4 times

ibooks is good, but the store dont jump/open the new download. and there is no zoom button
 

hamis92

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Hello everybody.
Is the battery life better with 10.11.1? I have a rmbp late 2013 still in Mavericks, and I read that most of users say battery usage dropped from 7-8 hours to 4.
Thanks in advance
Having upgraded the same (15-inch) model straight from Mavericks to El Capitan, I haven't noticed any significant differences in battery life between the two versions.
 
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cool11

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I have problem upgrading 10.11.1 from 10.11, as I had also when I tried upgrading from yosemite to el capitan.
I have handsoff firewall on my mac, all the latest years, and some guys told me that maybe this is the obstacle.

I don't think it's a handsoff problem, as apple declares that one of the problems addressed with the new update, was the problematic installer of el capitan, when upgrading.

But, I want to ask: are there users here, with handsoff in their systems, that managed to successfully upgrade to 10.11.1?
 

Tech198

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Just did clean install of 10.11.1, and Apple removed the "secure delete" of trash...

You do get another "Delete immediately" option which doesn't serve any purpose, since both options do exactly the same.

Apple security bugs fixes page on 10.11 under Finder says "some users were having issues". To me that says, most users found it working ok... (assuming you believe Apple here)

They could have just said this just to make it sound better. but if users were having issues i'd like to know why they think they are.. because i've never had a problem with secure erase not doing it as intended... You know because it takes longer to delete files.

My belief is why Apple removed this is probably the same reason why u cannot erase free space from DU in GUI,,, Most Mac's are now SSD, and by simply not giving up fewer features, and instead, disabling this ability/ or removing in this case, now forces us to use third party app like CCleaner for this "secure deletion"

Since I zeropass (several in my case) SSD's anyway to clean install newer operating systems (aka i never upgrade). the lack of such a feature in 10.11.x may not be so bad. But just personal preference..

U can still to this via Terminal if u know the path..
 

Ritsuka

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You can't actually overwrite a file on a ssd. The ssd will write on random blocks instead of the one where the file were. There nothing you can do about it, it wasn't secure at all.
 

Tech198

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not with an OS that does TRIM. And noting has changed since Apple took this out.

Plus u can still zero-out an ssd from Terminal. And the time needed to do this wound not even equal to the act of just a simple erase.. (done from booting into recovery)

If that's all there was to it, it would be quick. but there is a difference. Performance degradation *could* be affected, depending on the number of passes, which is why i only do 1 pass of 0 writes..... There is noting wrong with this at all.. THe fact everyone says u shouldn't its just for protection in case people have used their drives allot and u have no idea if one would secure pass/delete would fail a given drive.
 

Tech198

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i know.... but i was merely using the fact that TRIM did this anyway and handled garbage collection..

I could see one possibility Apple removed the secure delete option because of TRIM does the clean up.. just not immediately.

thus why the option may have been removed.

unless there is another reason..
 

Ritsuka

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Trim doesn't do any cleanup, it just tell the ssd the file has been deleted and it can reuse those blocks. This has nothing to do with removing the actual deleted file data from the ssd.
 

KALLT

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unless there is another reason..

The reason is that it’s unreliable, on spinning disks as well as SSDs. It gave people the misguided impression that the data was irretrievable when in fact a fraction of it could still be recovered. Apple couldn’t guarantee this to you. With SSDs it was especially bad and it was particularly wasteful to do it. If you want to protect your data: use encryption. This allows you to format the drive as well without having to worry that some bits remain.
 

hamis92

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You do get another "Delete immediately" option which doesn't serve any purpose, since both options do exactly the same.
Delete Immediately is not the same as Secure Empty Trash. Delete Immediately allows one to permanently delete individual items that are in Trash without completely emptying it, or to bypass the Trash entirely (the option is available outside the Trash within Finder's File menu whilst holding down the Option key).
 

vic-k

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Only started seeing this today, but I've noticed that Netflix play links have started showing up in Safari (that said, I did have Netflix open at the time, and here in Australia, we don't have many streaming services, so don't know whether it covers the likes of HBO, Showtime, etc.).

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Hugetrn

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I noticed you can no longer search a word on a webpage using the address bar in Safari...It was such a convenient feature...
 

robeddie

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I already know that. You could also do that by simply typing in the address bar. That's what I was talking about.

Agreed. If nothing else, there should at least be a spot in the menu bar for searching the web page. Most people would never know that command-F would pull up that search box. At least with most keyboard commands there's a 'manual' way to do the same thing in the 'File' or 'View' dropdown menus. How on earth is a newcomer to the mac supposed to instinctively know this keyboard command?
 

Hugetrn

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Agreed. If nothing else, there should at least be a spot in the menu bar for searching the web page. Most people would never know that command-F would pull up that search box. At least with most keyboard commands there's a 'manual' way to do the same thing in the 'File' or 'View' dropdown menus. How on earth is a newcomer to the mac supposed to instinctively know this keyboard command?

What's worse is that even if you know the cmd + f but you had been typing in the address bar the whole time because it was somewhat faster, you still do that out of habit in El Capitan which makes it even more annoying. I hope they bring it back with the next OS X release.
 

Ritsuka

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Agreed. If nothing else, there should at least be a spot in the menu bar for searching the web page. Most people would never know that command-F would pull up that search box. At least with most keyboard commands there's a 'manual' way to do the same thing in the 'File' or 'View' dropdown menus. How on earth is a newcomer to the mac supposed to instinctively know this keyboard command?

It's the same shortcuts in most of the apps, and you can find the command in the Edit menu if you don't know it.
 

dsemf

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What's worse is that even if you know the cmd + f but you had been typing in the address bar the whole time because it was somewhat faster, you still do that out of habit in El Capitan which makes it even more annoying. I hope they bring it back with the next OS X release.

Since the address bar is also also the search box (Google, etc.) how is the browser supposed to know that you want a page search instead?

DS
 

Hugetrn

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Since the address bar is also also the search box (Google, etc.) how is the browser supposed to know that you want a page search instead?

DS

Apparently you weren't aware of this feature in previous releases. It used to work just like it does on an iOS device.
 

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