It was a PR announcement and nothing more. No need to try and read too much into the statement.
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Qualcomm President: Priority Number One is Launching Apple's 5G iPhone as Fast as Possible
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Lower prices? Did we forget Intel was about 12 months behind in their first-gen 5G modem? Apple was in no position to negotiate terms.
To this day, Apple continues to use Broadcom chips packaged by Murata for Wi-Fi/BT. Apple has shown they can tweak a standard like Bluetooth for their own use, like H1. But they're a bit far from spinning their own wireless silicon.
The idea that they didnt start working on this in anticipation of is silly. It doesnt mean that Apple wasnt already testing out a Qualcomm modem in a device in the pipeline already.
Facts are things proven. Apple has a defect in multiple products and there are many covered under support documents and service programs. Your constant defense to downplay them in multiple posts is why you're often ignored or criticized.
Apple Service Exchange + Repair Extension Programs
There are many others not on the list above and are archived at archive.org because they are no longer provided or being offered for service by Apple.
Forbes MacBook Pro Shutdown Problem
BusinessInsider MacBook Butterfly Keyboard Issues
Verge MacBook Battery Fire Problem
Telegraph Macbook Anti-Reflective Coating Defect
Digital Trends MacBook Pro SSD Failure
Medium MacBook Pro Thermal Throttling
PCMag MacBook Air Logic Board Faulty
VentureBeat MacBook Pro T2 Causing Kernel Panics
ZDNet MacBook Pro Hinge Display Cable Breaking
AppleToolBox MacBook USB-C Port Loose Connection
and so on......................hundreds of thousands of sources with a plethora of examples of multiple different failures in the Apple notebook lineup.
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That's what I was thinking regarding this rumor. Is it really reasonable to expect Apple will have 5G ready for 2020 iphones given this timeline?
It's not a bout a race and about being first but about being on time. If the major networks roll out 5G in late 2020-early 2021 and Apple's competitors will have 5G by then but iPhones won't, iPhone sales will suffer. Apple will want to avid that if they can.
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Those get clicks because Apple products are popular. Zero of those post any type of failure rate or precise number of impacted users. They reference the usual anecdotal stories.
I downplay it because Apple ships 300M units of product annually and has amazing quality control. If 50,000 units are impacted, that’s 0.016% failure rate, but those people can make a lot of noise.
Remember iPad Pro “Bendgate?” Yeah, post a picture of a few bent iPads and a video of someone purposely breaking it and you have a story picked up by every tech news outlet. Not impressed. Not an issue. Not even a story anymore and iPad just put up 16% growth.
I’m sure some Macs have broken keyboards. I’m also sure Apple still sells them and waited 4 years to replace it on one model. The failure rates are clearly not alarming.
Everyone one of them are on multiple sites. It's probably a good thing for you that MacRumors opted to not have a downvote feature for posts. You're just wanting to move the post up to keep people from reading the many failures of sorts that affect different Apple MacBooks. You've provided zero proof that any of them are small. Pretty pathetic that you're bought so cheaply to constantly denounce issues on a forum.
Where's your proof?
As of right now, you've provided ZERO proof that these are small.
The idea that Apple can test a Qualcomm 5G modem without being given one is crazy.
The fact that Qualcomm CEO says Apple won't have time to integrate Qualcomm's front end RF confirms Apple wasn't testing any Qualcomm silicon.
If you’re referring to the size, Actually, quite the opposite. Consumers have gravitated towards larger displays for years now. The minority is not the ‘norm’ when it comes to a smaller form factor is anymore.
Additionally, Apple strategically places some of the the most premium/advanced features in the larger form factors of the iPhones, (Triple lens being an example), Traditionally, if you look at Apples marketing between the iPhone 8 and 2017 iPhone X when it launched, the iPhone 8 probably represented 10% or less of Apples marketing for the iPhone.
I wasn't referring to size. I am wanting them to give us a phone next year in the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus form factor. I do not want an OLED screen, an ugly distracting notch, face ID, or no home button. I want to use an iphone that is based off the original design concept... cough cough home button.
So... 5G-ate? Cellgate? Antennagate2? Any other gate possible?
I know some people are simply so h...y for 5G, but this is going to be first gen 5G for Apple, and what have we learn about buying anything first gen of Apple products? I’ll wait until iphone 13 or 14 for my 5G, and by that time, coverage will probably be decent enough.
I know some people are simply so h...y for 5G, but this is going to be first gen 5G for Apple, and what have we learn about buying anything first gen of Apple products? I’ll wait until iphone 13 or 14 for my 5G, and by that time, coverage will probably be decent enough.
That is your take. I suspect both companies got a bit of what they wanted with Apple coming out a bit better.
It was estimated Apple owed close to 9 billion in royalties. If accurate 6.5 billion is a bargain. Further, Apple shaved a few dollars off the per device price. That also is significant. Apple also now deals with Qualcomm directly not through its device manufacturers, which was also a complaint of Apple.
Apple also did have some leverage because Qualcomm was likely going to lose its fight with the FTC and settling with Apple put Qualcomm in a better legal position. Turns out Qualcomm did lose and Apple’s now not actively supporting the government. Qualcomm also was likely going to lose Apple’s big case against Qualcomm and Apple could have delayed the roll out of 5G another year until after that lawsuit came out Apple’s way. Apple also didn’t give up its appeal rights in Germany where Qualcomm enjoyed one of its few victories and forced an injunction on Apple but by all accounts the appeals court was going to side with Apple and Qualcomm was going to have to forfeit a significant bond to Apple.
Stuff like this spreads. The iPad bend nonsense went viral. It was everywhere. So what? Apple articles get clicks.
If you invested, you’d remember all the bearish Apple articles that cited “supply checks” indicating lower iPhone demand for years, only to be proven wrong by earnings. Every financial news entity ran the story, with zero proof, only rumors. Every iPhone was a flop, dead on arrival. Until it wasn’t. So this stuff spreads like cancer. I assume you see how Apple trades now.
Of course I have proof. Apple did not redesign in all their laptops and took 4 years to even go back to the scissor.
You people have no concept of a 300M unit scale if you think even thousands of complaints is something major.
Ask Samsung what happens when there is a design flaw. You can’t just pretend it doesn’t exist if it’s a large scale and major issue. This was a minor annoyance that impacted some users. Apple took care of them. Apple acknowledges many non big deal issues by helping those impacted. Nature of the business.
Of course Qualcomm is pushing their RF front end solution, I’d expect nothing less. But there’s no technical reason other manufacturers can’t come up with as good or even better components, and absolutely no reason to think Qualcomm will ever beat all other suppliers, next year or a decade from now. Maybe, maybe not.
There’s as much magic in working with RF at these frequencies as there is with DSP in baseband modems. In both cases, Qualcomm may or may not have the best solution. For all we know, the small performance difference at low RF signal levels characterized in recent iPhones is an antenna, tuning, switch, filter, amplifier, etc. issue and Intel’s baseband modem is actually better than Qualcomm’s ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
re: your last question, I’m not sure what that means. Compete with what? Android-based premium smartphones? If you’re talking about the RF front end specifically, Apple has licensed Qualcomm’s entire patent portfolio, so I assume they’ll utilize whatever Qualcomm IP they see fit. Or maybe other suppliers will have a better solution and the question will be how can Qualcomm compete. Who knows?
Others who have pondered the issue disagree with your analysis. Consider the challenges facing Apple, who dropped a billion for Intel's modem business. Just look at the challenges Apple faces in the cellular radio business:
Contrary to your conclusion, this article raises several factually valid reasons why it could be an enormous challenge -- engineering, technical, and financial -- for competitors to "come up with" "better components."
That's still not proof. People want numbers, facts, data, or anything besides your opinion. That's all you've been giving is your exaggerated opinion. You were all about asking for proof. I and many others see you have nothing.
Where's your proof?
Please keep up. On MR ‘form factor‘ and ‘price point‘ are sexy synonyms for size and price respectively.
They do not mean size, shape, and other physical characteristics or a point on a scale where a product might be marketed.
