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When did Trump give props to white supremacy?
Media brainwashing seems to be working.
But it seems like Tim is smarter than some macrumor forum posters.
Samsung moved their production 10 years ago to Vietnam and Korea strategically to avoid getting their intellectual property and assets taken and used by the Chinese government (where do you think Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, blah blah get their tech from? SS, Microsoft, Google, Dell, Qualcomm, etc etc list is endless). Samsung was smart and saw this a mile away and didn't want China to gain too much power in terms of world trade and production. Smart guys. They are not held hostage of China's theft, incredibly unfair trade practices.
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Samsung pulled out of that war zone long ago to avoid China's intellectual theft and asset freezes by the government. China take other country's companies tech equipment and software and use it for their own calling it Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, blah blah whatever low end Chinese tech companies' names insert here. They don't really innovate and rely on stolen tech. This is their survival tactic, it has been for centuries....centuries of theft, ignoring royalties, stealing, stealing, stealing...why do you think china is the country of rip offs?
The closest approximation of a totally free market happened here in America, and I point to the Industrial Revolution and all the effects of our modern standard of living as its effects and proof of validation.
If you believe in a whimsically regulated, and controlled market, you must be smoking something really strong. Whimsically regulated and controlled markets have existed everywhere for ages, and every single one of them ended in ruin eventually.
Besides, you're switching topics for no reason. Nobody thinks the world is going to end if we trade with China fora few less percent in cost. The fact is he is going around and clubbing whatever he feels like, and people (especially the "party of principle") are eating it up because they're not opposed to authoritarianism, and doing what they're told. Your trouble is you're willing to give whatever power to whomever asks for it as long as they sound plausible, as long as they tell you it'll benefit some group you like, like "American jobs" or whatever. You'll throw a non-contradictory principle like free markets out the window for the sake of some expedient, short term, range of the moment political maneuver, as opposed to standing for freedom on principle, especially when it feels tough to do so.
It’s been especially weird for someone like me who was always a protectionist Republican. I supported Trump in the primary in large part because he bucked Republican orthodoxy in a lot of ways I agreed with, and now the entire party has followed.
The concept of a free global trade is unnecessary for a power like the US. Basically everything can be produced in the in the US and be freely traded among the 50 US states and its territories. Each US state is a country of its own. Therefore, we already have a system of free trade among 50 countries that are members of the Union because of the laws of interstate commerce without any restrictions or tariffs. There are very few raw materials and food items that cannot be produced within this system of interstate commerce. Those few items can be obtained on the global markets, but the free global trade is not mandatory nor is it desired for that purpose.
The US is unlike almost any other country in the world in that respect. The smaller powers like Israel or the Netherlands (or almost any other European or Asian or Latin American country for that matter) must rely on global trade to satisfy all of its needs due to the relatively small size of their economy. We, the US, on the other hand are blessed with the natural resources and strong state economies that are capable of satisfying 99.9% of our needs. Free global trade hurts us more than it benefits us. The testament to that tenet is the tremendous US trade imbalance, which is about $1 trillion per year. That trade imbalance has contributed greatly to our $22 trillion national debt.
We are unique in a respect that we would benefit greatly as a nation from removing ourselves from the global markets. The only exception I would advocate for is the inclusion of Canada in our North American trade system if they so desire due to the economic, geographic, and cultural closeness between our two countries as well as similar standards of living and similar salaries.
Where’s your proof that Trump cares only about the 1% elite wealthy? Because he is wealthy too, automatically that makes him part of the elite?
How discriminatory to think that all rich people care only about themselves and they are all part of the elite just because of their wealth.
Does it sound crazy to you that there are good rich people that genuinely want to help the world and there are bad selfish rich people who care Only about themselves?
“Bangs his own daughter”?! Where’s your proof of that?
Just because he used to like having sex with porn stars and random women in the past, that doesn’t mean that he cannot change and devote himself to his family and try to make the world a better place through with his personal wealth and presidency.
I mean, come on thats not even the worse habit a rich person can have, and you haters loose your mind over it, like everybody else is a saint in this world.
Ew no I would never want the US to become entirely socialist. Nor do I want it to be entirely capitalist, though I love capitalism and think it does have its good parts, so does socialism. But they both have their drawbacks as well. This is why we're quasi, which is the best kind of economy; morally sound but still with potential for copious amounts of wealth.
I love how you don't offer anything specific and just say he was "reckless, didn't do anything" etc. But he did quite a lot, actually. More than your boy Trump. He rescued the country from an economic downward spiral, just as the next democratic president will have to starting in 2020.
Make no mistake, Trump WILL **** up the economy, and while that's not ideal I just can't wait to see all the *********s lose their minds. I hope it's a woman so his administration is sandwiched between a black guy and a woman, the two types of people he hates the most lol
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"There were fine people on both sides." You can try and spin it any way you want, but there's no denying what the man said; he doesn't thing Nazis are all that bad apparently ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He WANTS to bang his own daughter. He's on camera saying, "If Ivanka weren't my daughter I'd..." and you know the rest. Or maybe you don't
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I love how you don't offer anything specific and just say he was "reckless, didn't do anything" etc. But he did quite a lot, actually. More than your boy Trump. He rescued the country from an economic downward spiral, just as the next democratic president will have to starting in 2020.
Make no mistake, Trump WILL **** up the economy, and while that's not ideal I just can't wait to see all the *********s lose their minds. I hope it's a woman so his administration is sandwiched between a black guy and a woman, the two types of people he hates the most lol
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"There were fine people on both sides." You can try and spin it any way you want, but there's no denying what the man said; he doesn't thing Nazis are all that bad apparently ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He WANTS to bang his own daughter. Easy there tRumpy boy, don't go twisting my words to fit your narrative like so many of you little tw**ts like to do. He's on camera saying, "If Ivanka weren't my daughter I'd..." and you know the rest. Or maybe you don't
More liberal talking points from a hard left liberal.
Haha okay. I piss off liberals all the time, too. Hence being more moderate. But yeah, I think I'm going to take a page from the right's book and just vote so hard against you because I hate you more than I hate the left. Like how you guys want to own the libs so badly that you'll vote against your children's future and keep voting in the climate deniers. I don't like socialism, but I'll vote for every hardcore socialist I can just to piss you people off. Since obviously you don't care if we all go down together as the earth burns us alive, just as long as you can see the libs' reaction, then I don't care if you have to wait in a bread line while you and your family starve.
I'm eager to see which side destroys the world first!
All of your comments on this thread are just like they are taken from the Ralph Maddow show or MediaMatters website. You’re fooling no one and you look foolish constantly asserting that you are a middle of the road, moderate voter. But hey, you do you.
I hate the entire spectrum but conservatives take the prize no doubt. I am a left-leaning moderate who can't stand the left at times, but I'm cognizant enough to see that the right is the real enemy and needs to be destroyed. The ideal new two-party system would be left centrists vs progressives. And then the libertarians and Green Partiers continuing to throw their vote away as they've always done.
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I love how you don't offer anything specific and just say he was "reckless, didn't do anything" etc. But he did quite a lot, actually. More than your boy Trump. He rescued the country from an economic downward spiral, just as the next democratic president will have to starting in 2020.
Make no mistake, Trump WILL **** up the economy, and while that's not ideal I just can't wait to see all the *********s lose their minds. I hope it's a woman so his administration is sandwiched between a black guy and a woman, the two types of people he hates the most lol
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"There were fine people on both sides." You can try and spin it any way you want, but there's no denying what the man said; he doesn't thing Nazis are all that bad apparently ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He WANTS to bang his own daughter. He's on camera saying, "If Ivanka weren't my daughter I'd..." and you know the rest. Or maybe you don't
“Fine people on both sides” (of the statue debate)
And Trump said seconds later:
“...and I’m not taking about neo-nazi’s or white supremacists, which should be totally condemned.”
There is no reason to get all worked up and insult members on this forum, just because you believed alot of fake news stories.
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I love how you don't offer anything specific and just say he was "reckless, didn't do anything" etc. But he did quite a lot, actually. More than your boy Trump. He rescued the country from an economic downward spiral, just as the next democratic president will have to starting in 2020.
Make no mistake, Trump WILL **** up the economy, and while that's not ideal I just can't wait to see all the *********s lose their minds. I hope it's a woman so his administration is sandwiched between a black guy and a woman, the two types of people he hates the most lol
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"There were fine people on both sides." You can try and spin it any way you want, but there's no denying what the man said; he doesn't thing Nazis are all that bad apparently ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He WANTS to bang his own daughter. He's on camera saying, "If Ivanka weren't my daughter I'd..." and you know the rest. Or maybe you don't
Lol That still doesn’t prove anything.
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Please. Trump is the king of fake news. He calls into Fox & Friends multiple times a week to tell his base what they want to hear. It's a classic red herring move to say everyone else is fake but you're the one who can be trusted. Actually, it's more of a dictator move but hey, you seem to love and adore your god-emperor and he can do no wrong. You people would follow that man right off a cliff.
Also, isn't it funny how he "condemns" white nationalists, yet they get so fired up from his rhetoric? Nazis aren't exactly marching wearing Elizabeth Warren caps...
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Like..I just can't with you people. The guy is literally talking about wanting to date his own daughter... No spin added, no gotcha journalism, no misconstruing what he meant. Just Trump in his own words. Do you think you'll ever stop being an apologist for him? Because right now it feels like those of us who are sane and rational are saying "The sky is blue" and you guys shoot back with "Nope. It's not." Even though you know it is, it's worth being wrong if it sticks it to the libs!
It's just so pointless.
You do realize once you start name calling, you have lost credibility. You resort to the typical liberal tactics of name call, accuse of racism, etc. Obama didn’t save the economy. He rescued Wall Street and doubled our national debt. He went on a global apology tour, made a horrendous deal with Iran, a known state sponsor of terror, shoved the worst piece of legislation in US history aka Obamacare down our throats that simply made healthcare catastrophically expensive, took over student loans and made those more expensive, neglected defense spending so 40% of the air fleet of our military was unflight-worthy by end of 2016. I mean I could go on and on. He was an embarrassment. Trump is simply undoing many of the disastrous decisions Obama made. Trump is by no means perfect and I don’t agree with everything he says and does, or particularly conducts himself, but at this point, it’s either Trump, or a hateful intolerant left regime composed of special folks like Biden, Warren, Pelosi, AOC, and other real honest ‘polished’ politicians.I love how you don't offer anything specific and just say he was "reckless, didn't do anything" etc. But he did quite a lot, actually. More than your boy Trump. He rescued the country from an economic downward spiral, just as the next democratic president will have to starting in 2020.
Make no mistake, Trump WILL **** up the economy, and while that's not ideal I just can't wait to see all the *********s lose their minds. I hope it's a woman so his administration is sandwiched between a black guy and a woman, the two types of people he hates the most lol
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"There were fine people on both sides." You can try and spin it any way you want, but there's no denying what the man said; he doesn't thing Nazis are all that bad apparently ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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He WANTS to bang his own daughter. He's on camera saying, "If Ivanka weren't my daughter I'd..." and you know the rest. Or maybe you don't
Politics in America are an absolute joke. You can thank terrible discretion of political leadership for why we have Trump in the first place. Had it not been for Obama duping half of America for 8 years, and a complicit media, we would not be having this conversation.
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The point is not that there's very little we couldn't do ourselves, the point is that I am an individual with rights, and my rights don't end at the borders of this country. They purpose of government is to protect -- not give, but protect -- my rights. That includes, but is not limited to protecting my right to associate with whomever I want, so long as I'm not violating someone else freedom of action in doing so.
The argument from efficiency or self-sufficiency is irrelevant, as it does not address the fundamental issue at play: Individual rights. I am a rational individual, which means I have the right to act according to my judgement. That right includes the right to purchase things from people in other countries, even if those countries are violating their rights by imposing tariffs on them. If you think we would be better off if we closed the country off to global trade entirely, you are free to act accordingly for yourself, but you are not free, and you it does not give you the right to force that judgement on me through the mechanism of the government, in the form of a tariff. That act is an abject violation of individual rights, and the opposite or what made this country great. Bottom line, if I identify a value in buying something from someone in China, you have absolutely no right to force me to act otherwise. Maybe I’m right in my assessment, and maybe I’m wrong, but the consequences will be mine and mine alone. That is the essence of a free, and thereby great country.
On a related note, the trade deficit does not effect the national debt. Government gets money through taxation, and it spends more than it takes in, so it borrows to do that. Adding up that governmental budget deficit over time is where the national debt comes from.
The trade deficit is the number which measures the net import/export cash flow which occurs over America’s borders. It does not indicate how much we lose, or at how much of a loss we are. In fact, it indicates the exact opposite; the number reflected in the trade deficit if the minimum amount we gained in trade. For example, if I buy something on eBay from China for $1, that will sho up in the trade deficit at -$1. The item I bought, however, is worth far more to me than $1, that’s why I went through the trouble of buying it, and waiting 2 weeks to get it. The same goes for the rest of the transactions in the trade deficit. Just because the money crosses an international border doesn’t mean the government now country it as debt, and it doesn’t make the transaction any less valuable to me. Think of it this way: I have a trade deficit with my grocery store. Am I getting ripped off because they haven’t bought my services in an equal amount? Would I have been better off if I had gone through the trouble of growing the stuff myself? Or paying a huge premium to have Americans grow it instead? Certainly not, I’d have been worse off in every one of those alternative instances, and yet, this is what the party of “principle” and “free market Capitalism” advocate for.
Besides, the thrust of my point wasn’t to disagree with tariffs, even though they don’t make any sense. My point was that this “leader” walks around calling himself a free market capitalist, while imposing whatever brand of controls on the economy — and us — in complete contradiction with the principles of free market Capitalism. That, is totally inexcusable, and has caused decades worth of ideological damage to the country as it is. I can only hope he gets canned for some Socialist in the next election. Worse as the economy may be under them, at least people won’t be blaming Capitalism for it.
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I could ask for sources, but perhaps better if I provide some to you?
The apology tour was imagined by the media.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-apology-hiroshima/
The Iran deal was not bad. In fact it is almost 100% identical to what trump is now promoting as the best deal ever.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/17/trump-iran-deal-obama-1417801
Healthcare costs actually increased 16% more because of Trump.
https://thinkprogress.org/health-ca...-to-trumps-assault-on-obamacare-85d916a76f1e/
Student loans did not get more expensive. The program reduces defrauding of the system, which saves money.
https://thecollegeinvestor.com/15148/obama-student-loan-forgiveness/
As for the 40% of the air fleet claim? That one is new to me so you’ll have to provide the proof there.
Lol tRump calls people names ALL THE TIME. People on his side, people not on his side, it doesn't matter; he's indiscriminate with that ****You do realize once you start name calling, you have lost credibility. You resort to the typical liberal tactics of name call, accuse of racism, etc. Obama didn’t save the economy. He rescued Wall Street and doubled our national debt. He went on a global apology tour, made a horrendous deal with Iran, a known state sponsor of terror, shoved the worst piece of legislation in US history aka Obamacare down our throats that simply made healthcare catastrophically expensive, took over student loans and made those more expensive, neglected defense spending so 40% of the air fleet of our military was unflight-worthy by end of 2016. I mean I could go on and on. He was an embarrassment. Trump is simply undoing many of the disastrous decisions Obama made. Trump is by no means perfect and I don’t agree with everything he says and does, or particularly conducts himself, but at this point, it’s either Trump, or a hateful intolerant left regime composed of special folks like Biden, Warren, Pelosi, AOC, and other real honest ‘polished’ politicians.
So by your logic, he has no credibility either
Interesting ... watching Trump live talking about TC in response to a reporters question.
Basically it appears TC called DT so they talked while others have been using lobbyist, publicists, media, friendly lawmakers, etc ...
A phone call. Imagine that.
Basically it appears TC called DT so they talked while others have been using lobbyist, publicists, media, friendly lawmakers, etc ...
A phone call. Imagine that.
No President controls defense spending or ANY spending. That is Congress' job. Understand how your government works to be a better citizen and an informed voter.
Under Obama the first 2 years Congress was controlled by Democrats, the next 4 years it was split and the last two years it was Republican controlled.
The budget for a year is signed by the previous year's president. The 2009 budget (Obama's first year) was signed by Bush. The 2017 budget (Trump's first year) was signed by Obama and so on.
https://dod.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/0218_Budget/
Coincidentally the defense budgets for the 2 democrat controlled congressional years (2010 & 2011) are higher than either of the first two Trump era budgets which had a republican controlled congress (2018 & 2019).
The economy was "booming" under Reagan and George W too - look where it led. The Treasury main yield curve is frightening and the last thing that will help Trump are recession fears. Regardless of what he tweets.
I know what a trade deficit and the national debts are. I don't need your lecture on that.
When a corporation is allowed to accumulate profits in off-shore accounts and does not pay taxes in the US on those profits (just like Apple has been doing for decades), this is the money that never gets taxed by the US. If we have a budget deficit and have to borrow to balance our budget (thus increasing the national debt), it is partly because the US government does not receive taxes on the money that corporations stash globally. This is a direct result of global trade.
When instead of hiring Americans to build Apple products, Apple outsources the manufacturing to Foxconn, which employs hundreds of thousands of Chinese workers, these workers pay taxes in China and not in the US. Both State and Federal budgets miss out on tax revenue and have to borrow to balance their budgets. The trade deficit only makes things worse because the products manufactured in the US are sold at much lower value overseas than the volume of products that we buy from overseas. Again, because of that, we stimulate the manufacturing overseas, which results yet again in taxes paid overseas rather than in the US. Moreover, in order for us to buy more products from overseas, we have to borrow even more, and much lending comes from foreign sources. We get more and more in debt, and countries that have positive trade imbalance with us are getting richer (both from the increased tax revenue and from the interest payments they receive from our debt to them).
I can't help it if you can't see a direct link between the national debt and trade imbalance, but such a dependency is pretty obvious.
Finally, I'm not imposing my views on you or using the US government to force you into not buying foreign goods. If you want to buy products made overseas, no one will stop you from doing so. The issue here is about so called "free trade" with the countries that do not have "free economies". So, if you want to continue to contribute to the oppressive Chinese regime by stimulating their economy with your cash, go right ahead. All I'm saying is that the US is in a unique position that we can impose tariffs on EVERYTHING coming from other countries and still be able to maintain our lifestyle due to the fact that our economy can provide for 99.9% of our needs. The rest 0.01% can be imported at a 25% tariff. So, a little bottle of vanilla would cost $1 more. This will not bring down any family budget. You are always free to pay 25% more and buy any foreign-made product.
As for your example of your trade imbalance with the grocery store, it's a flawed illustration. You would have a negative trade imbalance if your income drops dramatically, whereas your consumption habits stay the same or increase. In this case, you will start accruing annual deficit in your budget (less money coming in than the money going out). It means that you will have to start draining your savings to maintain your lifestyle. Once you have drained your savings, you will have to start borrowing money to be able to continue to buy groceries and other things that you buy. Hence, you will start accumulating debt (similar to the national debt of a country).
So, the trade imbalance (not with a particular grocery store per se, but between you and the rest of the world) will inevitably lead to the diminishing of your net worth. Once your net worth has been exhausted, you will have to start accumulating debt. The only two ways to rectify this situation is either to start making more money than you are spending or to start spending less to match your lesser revenue. If you make your living by making something (say you make furniture in your garage and sell it on Nextdoor.com), you will have to make more and/or better furniture and sell it for more money to balance your trade deficit; the other way is to to stop buying vegetables and meats at the grocery store and instead grow your own vegetables and have your own farm animals (along with continuing to make the same quality and quantity of furniture in your garage). In either case, balancing your "trade imbalance" with the rest of the world is the only way to balance your budget and eliminate your debt.
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