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hesoba

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Hey Guys. Does it make sense to shoot videos in 4k, when I only have a MacBook Pro, a TV without 4k and literally nothing with 4k?

DOES 4k look better than 1080p at a 1080p display?
 

TheSkywalker77

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I don't think there is a difference between 1080 and 4K on a 1080 display, so no, there isn't a difference.

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong though.
 
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Banglazed

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You should always shoot in higher resolution in case you need to downscale/sample it to a lower resolution with crispier/sharper image. In case of Youtubers, some actually record their videos in 6-8K and downscale to 4K for upload.

However, you can prepare your library for the future in case you upgrade your hardware to support 4K once it becomes affordable.
 
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StumpyBloke

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I don't think there is a difference between 1080 and 4K on a 1080 display, so no, there isn't a difference.

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong though.

Actually you are wrong

It’s well known and accepted in the A/V industry that you film in a higher resolution even when the final output will be downscaled. As noted above, this results in a sharper and more detailed image.
 

bbrks

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4K is definitely better but only if you can show the recorded material on some bigger screen like 50 inch +
 

AppleHaterLover

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Makes sense if you shoot a lot of video and have a 256GB + iPhone. If you shoot a lot of video, you'll thank yourself a few years down the line when you revisit your memories from 2019 and the video is clear.

I don't give a toss about video and I have a 64GB iPhone, so for me that's a pass.
 

hesoba

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Makes sense if you shoot a lot of video and have a 256GB + iPhone. If you shoot a lot of video, you'll thank yourself a few years down the line when you revisit your memories from 2019 and the video is clear.

I don't give a toss about video and I have a 64GB iPhone, so for me that's a pass.

You sound like 1080p is gritty and shitxx compared to 4k, which in my opinion, thats not the case.
1080p is also clear I think
 

joesegh

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if you have the storage, shoot at the higher resolution where possible. you'll be glad when you go back to view those videos in the future that they're in 4k. think of it like future proofing. if you don't have the storage, then obviously 1080p is fine too.
 

Rodneyp

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I bought the 512 GB version so I could shoot 4k 60fps video shots of my son’s hockey games knowing I will be watching them in the future on a 4K or higher screen.
 

IamScotty

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1080 looks way better than 4K on my Macbook PRO and 4K looks nicer on the phone but drains the battery hardcore. I'll stick with 1080 for now, as the quality is much much better on the Macbook and TV.
 

JamesMcFlyJR

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in my opinion? 4K all the way.

The videos I take are all memories that Ill keep for years. Ill want the best quality I can get at the moment.

Sure 1080p is perfectly fine. However, I noticed that zooming in there is a significant quality loss (obviously because less pixels), and 4K solves that.

If I want to crop something out? 4K allows a lot more freedom while still looking great

However, I have moved from 4K/60fps to 4K/30fps over the past years. the 60fps looks way too smooth imo
 

MacGiver

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Thanks. And didn’t you notice a kind of judder going from 4K 60 to 4K 30? I shot the same landscape going from left to right at 1080p and 4K 24/30/60. Below 60 when looking at the videos on my iPhone it judders. The left/right movement is not as smooth. No?
 

addamas

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Go for 4K 60fps. Then you can save a copy for later and make a downscaled one to 1080p.
Quality will be better than recorded 1080p directly.
 

HDFan

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You should always shoot in higher resolution in case you need to downscale/sample it to a lower resolution

yep.

you'll thank yourself a few years down the line when you revisit your memories from 2019

Compare VHS tape quality (if you have any) to your 1080p iPhone videos. Absolutely no comparison. 4K-1080p is not as dramatic a difference as a VHS-1080p comparison on suitable equipment, but HDR does makes a huge difference. It will be more important in the future when the transition to 8K is complete.
 

MacGiver

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Go for 4K 60fps. Then you can save a copy for later and make a downscaled one to 1080p.
Quality will be better than recorded 1080p directly.
I shot 2 videos:
-1080p/60 HDR
-4K/60 HDR
I went to my photo app on my Apple TV 4K and played both. I noticed 2 things
-The 4K is crispier
-But the 1080p has less lag.
I shot a tree on a beach going right and left. The leafs are less blurry and clearer on the 1080p when I am moving. On the 4K video it is blurry. Same thing when watched directly on my iPhone.
Any idea? Could someone do the same and tell me?
 

vince22

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definitely shoot 4K/60 HDR (Dolby Vision if capable) for future use , I have LG OLED Tv , a perfect match to play 4K/60 HDR videos recorded with my iPhone 14 Pro Max and Apple TV 4K (4:4:4) chroma connection.
 
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Fat_Guy

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Shoot in 4k 24fps. I used to say 30fps drop frame but broadcast is no longer a thing these days. I’ll be contrarian and say forget HDR as none of my dedicated cameras have them and it only creates more problems than it solves.


So shoot in 4k and deliver in HD or 4K. Toss Final Cut and learn Davinci Resolve. Buy a gaming computer (PC) and upgrade from there. Resolve can use stacked high-end graphics cards in series to work the magic. Learn how to edit in nodes. Insane stuff but necessary to work the higher resolutions. My scratch disc is a measly 10TB. You all get the drift…
 

vince22

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Go for 4K 60fps. Then you can save a copy for later and make a downscaled one to 1080p.
Quality will be better than recorded 1080p directly.
i agree, i have done it for my relatives 1080p display.
 

santa

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Another important point is that if you shoot in 4K and decide to output to 1080p you can crop the scene and have a lot of control in that regard. You will still have the 4K if you want to output to the full res but at least you have the option of doing HD. If you have an older MBPro you may want to use proxies for the editing but that is relatively easy to deal with.
 
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