How much battery charge is this photo-scanning feature going to waste?!
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Apple Introducing New Child Safety Features, Including Scanning Users' Photo Libraries for Known Sexual Abuse Material
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You will never notice the hit.
There are existing businesses that handle such things. I don't expect that of Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Samsung or HP. They're in the business to deliver entertainment products and to better our computing lives. They are not in the business to save the world and it's downright ridiculous to expect them to do so. It's not their job. It's bad enough this forum already attacks Apple for not making the ultimate computer that they want, so much so that there are constant threats of lawsuits here against Apple. Imagine the amount of trashing Apple would get for trying to do the right thing by saving the world no matter how much right they do.
Perhaps you didn't see the news article posted here when Apple donated 10 million N95 COVID masks? What did this forum do? They trashed Apple for "attempting" to give themselves a public pat on the shoulder for putting this news out. SMH. MR is not an "Apple Enthusiast" forum no matter how it looks at face value.
As noted previously, this is the thin edge of a very thick wedge.
Whether or not the people who stormed the Capitol were smart enough to not only foment an insurrection but to also HOLD the country is open to debate. Albeit a short debate. However, there were those among the crowd with the stated purpose of hanging the VP, of seizing the ballots to stop the count, and thereby in their minds stop the successful election of now President Biden.
Treason is the most heinous act under the Constitution. It would seem defensible to use this new technology as it is only "client side", supposedly absolutely full proof, reviewed by only Apple employees with great experience and pure heart to find this rioters who didn't post their exploits on social media....... After all, Apple is now acting as a type of police investigations unit without warrants. Why stop at child pornography?
What is the next search? Images of married gay people in states that don't allow for gay marriage? Or perhaps those smoking weed in states that don't allow for recreational use. What about those who take a snapshot holding a weapon that is illegal in their state?
On thing history has taught us, is that the road of human experience is littered with good intent gone bad, inventions used for evil, and weak people not willing to push back agains what is wrong...
Who wants their kids receiving sexually explicit images? 80% of teenager girls questioned say they have received pics from boys showing their members. Who wants that?
Why has that become a thing?
People are always ready to complain when anyone makes a decision to do something. The sense of unease about maybe what might be. The beginning of the end, the thin end of the wedge.
But whailst they are feeling uneasy and worrying about someone looking at pics of them playing with the dog or standing round the BBQ, soceity is quietly going to hell
So you don't mind kids getting explicit pics and girls feeling forced to send naked pics back.
OK, you feel uneasy about someone having a machine looking at your pis but enough to not to do something about that?
And what would you suggest they do about that? What would you prefer that they just do nothing?
This is brilliant.
It's a machine giving a number for each match it sees. Only when the match is very high will someone look at it
In the old days you sent your film away to be processed and someone looked at every single frame. People didn't send explicit pics because they knew they wouldn't be processed at the least and that's probably what will happen here.
We have actually lost a lot in the name of freedom. We have allowed a lot of very creepy people to do nasty things in the safety of their own homes and instead of feeling dirty creeping around a red light district, scared of getting mugged, they are in their bedrooms swigging beer chatting to 500 people telling them they feel the same way.
And it's happened without anyone making a fuss.
It's our kids wives and sisters who are mostly paying for it.
And google by the way have copyright over everything you post to your google account. You don't even own the images you put online anymore. They are very quiet at the moment.
Why has that become a thing?
People are always ready to complain when anyone makes a decision to do something. The sense of unease about maybe what might be. The beginning of the end, the thin end of the wedge.
But whailst they are feeling uneasy and worrying about someone looking at pics of them playing with the dog or standing round the BBQ, soceity is quietly going to hell
So you don't mind kids getting explicit pics and girls feeling forced to send naked pics back.
OK, you feel uneasy about someone having a machine looking at your pis but enough to not to do something about that?
And what would you suggest they do about that? What would you prefer that they just do nothing?
This is brilliant.
It's a machine giving a number for each match it sees. Only when the match is very high will someone look at it
In the old days you sent your film away to be processed and someone looked at every single frame. People didn't send explicit pics because they knew they wouldn't be processed at the least and that's probably what will happen here.
We have actually lost a lot in the name of freedom. We have allowed a lot of very creepy people to do nasty things in the safety of their own homes and instead of feeling dirty creeping around a red light district, scared of getting mugged, they are in their bedrooms swigging beer chatting to 500 people telling them they feel the same way.
And it's happened without anyone making a fuss.
It's our kids wives and sisters who are mostly paying for it.
And google by the way have copyright over everything you post to your google account. You don't even own the images you put online anymore. They are very quiet at the moment.
Bold prediction - most of the hot takes, from those critical of Apple’s efforts to protect children, aren't going to age well.
1 in a trillion could be the combined chance of multiple 1 in a million error events happening to the same unlucky account.
It’s NOT a lot, if you know how to calculate compound probability.
If apple threshold of offences is like 5 or 10 matching pictures, 1 in a trillion is nothing to be surprised about.
Multiple innocent pictures…matching multiple not innocent pictures? One in a trillion seems about right.
Exactly.
People being surprised by that trillion figure either don’t know about probability or didn’t catch that you need multiple yellow cards to raise a red flag.
According to Apple, that action in and of itself would not trigger anything unless that photo was included in iCloud photos and was part of multiple hits. At the point, I don't think it wise to blindly accept Apple's marketing hype or completely chastise about Apple all of this. I don't think enough has been told to us whereby we can make an informed decision. These features haven't even seen beta testing client side. Apple's position could change again as to policy and practice.
Do you normally save pictures from spam bots to your camera roll and then upload to iCloud?
And isn't that the scary part? CSAM today, maybe terrorism a bit later, then we go piracy/political opponents/dissidents...
Soon, I understand, Apple will also install technology on their Apple Car Play that logs and reports anytime the car exceeds the speed limit or runs yellow lights. Seems Apple will use the location device on the iPhone that is automatically connected to the Apple Car Play. The infractions are then sent with the VIN, insured driver's name, and of course the cell phone contract to the authorities....
Of course, this is tongue in cheek, but I assume at some point possible.
IF this was true, people would be up in arms about software being loaded up, against their will, on devices they own. Why has everyone allowed tech companies the right to change, modify and delete software on their devices at will? The law needs to be changed to show that the software is an integral part of the device. As such, owners have the rights similar to their cars, or houses.
Of course, this is tongue in cheek, but I assume at some point possible.
IF this was true, people would be up in arms about software being loaded up, against their will, on devices they own. Why has everyone allowed tech companies the right to change, modify and delete software on their devices at will? The law needs to be changed to show that the software is an integral part of the device. As such, owners have the rights similar to their cars, or houses.
"In total, Apple received 28,276 device requests for 171,368 devices. Apple said it complied with 80% of those requests." - Source
This is for 6 months. You trust Apple way too blindly.
Complied with what? Did you even read the article?
These are requests to remove apps mostly from the AppStore probably due to copyright infringement. No where in there does it say anything about "spying" on people...hah
Indeed. Apple has proven themselves with Siri that they are not exactly the best in terms of AI.
"In the U.S., there were 4,662 total device requests received. That actually ranked as the second highest number behind Germany, which requested data on 13,021 devices. In third place was Brazil with 1,542 device requests for the six-month period ending June 30."
Tell me something I don't know: Law enforcement is gonna law enforce. As they should, what do you expect? What makes you think that all or some of these requests are baseless? And what does it have to do with our main topic?
Watch the movie Parenthood…hah! Great movie and this exact situation happens (the old drive-thru photobooth developers).
No. It is now my responsibility to not posses the hashes of child pornography kept in a super secret, not to be questioned database.
Child porn was used to sell sunscreen once upon a time. You know the image and brand to which I'm referring, I recommend that you do not search for it.
This is a nudity based system which will have many false positives and even more false negatives. Does it detect 11 year girls with facial makeup? I was at GLCFF last week and every year there are documentaries and shorts about child sex trafficking. And right out on the street, too young girl, fully clothed but trying to look mature and too old photographer, reenacting the opening scene from one.
And yet another person who does not understand how hashed images work. Read the white paper in the article.