Either that or look for another job...Cause you know its coming soon...........Ya, that extra hour of pay will make a huge difference.
Either that or look for another job...Cause you know its coming soon...........Ya, that extra hour of pay will make a huge difference.
NO, THEY NEED TO STAY OUT OF THIS COVID MESS.. UNDER STEVE, APPLE NEVER EVER GOT INVOLVED WITH POLITICS SUCH AS COVID OR INFLUENCING THE COUNTRY.. APPLE NEEDS TO STAY THE *** OUT !I'm really surprised Apple isn't buying batches of the vaccines and bringing in nurses to administer them for employees.
Because it’s called macrumors. An no a lot of companies won’t pay you to go get vaccinated you gotta go in your own time on your own days off. Good on you Apple for continuing to be one of the front runners.Why is this news? Our company, and others would be encouraging their employees to get vaccinated, and wouldn't bat an eyelid if someone had to be away from work for a short while, it would definitely be paid.
Ohh give them a break in some places you can take more than half an hour to get to a vaccination centre might have to wait an hour to get vaccinated and half an hour back an apple offering to pay sounds like you just need to pull your head in go get vaccinated Of your money to charity that you missed out onYa, that extra hour of pay will make a huge difference.
Scary? You mean it’s better to have to miss work and not get paid. Wait, this is sarcasm isn’t it?Paid time off to get vaccinated? Evil socialism! That's the scary stuff they do in Europe, not in the States.
That's the real reason behind these news, not that Apple is having a socialistic epiphany all of a sudden. For what is worth the outcome is positive.Make sure you have your vaxpass to even enter the building eventually.
Depends which country you are living in.. and what job type.Because it’s called macrumors. An no a lot of companies won’t pay you to go get vaccinated you gotta go in your own time on your own days off. Good on you Apple for continuing to be one of the front runners.
Ummmmm, yeah the capital letters really emphasize your point. Good job.NO, THEY NEED TO STAY OUT OF THIS COVID MESS.. UNDER STEVE, APPLE NEVER EVER GOT INVOLVED WITH POLITICS SUCH AS COVID OR INFLUENCING THE COUNTRY.. APPLE NEEDS TO STAY THE *** OUT !
Yea cuz the death rate for children is 100%It will be interesting to see if this really changes anything with working at the office. Probably more geared toward Retail. Also, until children can get vaccinated there will be a lot of people who will stay home regardless.
I think that's highly dependent on the position/job and company. I know people that consider on-site work as a perk. Your own 50 sq. ft. office with a pair of 27" monitors, great furniture, access to company facilities, ergonomist, brewed coffee, restaurants, etc. Not to mention the much needed social connections at the workplace.
Same over here. Most people seem to have adapted quite well to work from home too. It is only mostly team leads, project producers and some managers alluding to people to go back asap with some weird ad-like message “we have been doing better than ever historically but we know you miss people, we know you want to go back, so we will work extra hard on that” of sorts... maybe brought by HR or above levels pressure or maybe it makes the jobs of those a lot harder or stressful, but the message is out of touch with reality.I love working from how but agree with you that there will be turnover. My contract us up in 2 years (if I leave the company without 2 years of service, I need to pay back my relocation - if they hired me during COVID, I never would have had to relocate) - relocating is one of the most stressful things you can do. Now, with companies embracing remote, there will 100% be people looking for a WFH opportunity. My office leader can't wait to get us all back in (none of the employees feel any reason, and neither do the executives to go back in). There will definitely be turnover. Even with these vaccines, you can still be a carrier of the virus even if you're vaccinated. Not in any rush to use the office fridge filled with other peoples food that they forget about; sitting next to someone that coughs, and sharing public bathrooms.
Agreeing here, the paid leave and squeezing donuts being equated to socialism and communism is largely wrong. If I “squeeze the socialism out of a donut” like some comments said, I’ll be very very disappointed. A donut is the product of capitalism, paid leave is the product of capitalism... in a communist country you don’t even take a paid leave, you just leave, even chain the leave for a month completely, you will be (maybe) paid nevertheless the same as before and the same as others since work output, merits and other efforts aren’t rewarded.If you're going to troll, at least do a smarter job of it. Socialism is about state control of the means of production, not the laudable actions of private corporations. As an ardent capitalist myself, I am happy to see Apple do this. But it's no more than what I expect of them. As small business owner myself, not necessarily thriving during COVID, I did exactly the same. I don't want there to be any barriers to any of my people getting vaccinated.
I'm sorry---I should have been more clear--I wasn't referring to vaccines.There's currently no definitive, notable reduction in transmission due to vaccination (there are published anecdotes/thories -- but nothing definitive), due in large part to the relative newness of the strain(s), and therefore lack of historical data. There are excellent papers in Science, Nature, and of course other peer-reviewed academic journals.
Sharing this link just as a resource (there are many) where this is discussed:
Fact check: Scientists do not yet know whether the COVID-19 vaccine reduces transmission of the virus
A Facebook post, shared hundreds of times since Jan. 15, claims that the COVID-19 vaccine does not prevent transmission of the disease, meaning vaccinated people will effectively become “silent spreaders”. It uses this as an argument against introducing health passports...www.reuters.com
Conclusion:
"There is no conclusive evidence to claim COVID-19 vaccines do not prevent people spreading the disease. Scientists are not yet sure of how the vaccine affects transmission – and this is currently undergoing research. People are still required to follow restrictions even after vaccination to account for this uncertainty."
Presently, my firm pays my car note and gas as additional compensation.I figure why they do it, a combination of retention, wanting to hire younger people who are going to benefit more from most of that stuff, and (when it comes to health benefits) weird tax reasons. Some companies are less about that and do pay mostly cash.
I guess I don't get the sarcasm.Sarcasm my friend. Sarcasm.
I think the sarcasm is that many of my fellow Americans throw an absolute fit anytime the government does anything that resembles helping others, and they always attach socialism and communism to their argument against “handouts”. The post you quoted was most likely poking fun at that mentality.I guess I don't get the sarcasm.
Truly--what does any of this has to do with Socialism?
Are people saying Apple is socialist? I think that's laughable. Tim Cook is now a billionaire and I bet he swims in his gold coins at night like Scrooge McDuck. I certainly would.
Same here on the personal equipment. I’ve got 2 4k monitors at my desk, with 2 TVs (I work at a television network) - I don’t have anything near as nice at my desk. I actually prefer my home office- I never get dragged into morning meetings.. and don’t miss the office politics. Funny part about this going back into the office thing is the same person who never shows up to zoom calls is the one that can’t wait to be back into the office. Then they say we have bad communication because we’re not in the office. It’s like.. dude... you’re the last person to show up to an in person or zoom meeting anyway.. you just suck at communicating.Same over here. Most people seem to have adapted quite well to work from home too. It is only mostly team leads, project producers and some managers alluding to people to go back asap with some weird ad-like message “we have been doing better than ever historically but we know you miss people, we know you want to go back, so we will work extra hard on that” of sorts... maybe brought by HR or above levels pressure or maybe it makes the jobs of those a lot harder or stressful, but the message is out of touch with reality.
I decided to equip myself with considerably better extra equipment paid out of my own pocket (and then got serious about personal projects after work) and have become to love it. Would maybe be down for Friday’s closing meetings and then go for beers at the end of the work day with the colleagues but that’s about it... dreading the day I’ll be dragged back.
Agreeing here, the paid leave and squeezing donuts being equated to socialism and communism is largely wrong. If I “squeeze the socialism out of a donut” like some comments said, I’ll be very very disappointed. A donut is the product of capitalism, paid leave is the product of capitalism... in a communist country you don’t even take a paid leave, you just leave, even chain the leave for a month completely, you will be (maybe) paid nevertheless the same as before and the same as others since work output, merits and other efforts aren’t rewarded.
It’s the usual pitfall of taking into account an ideology at the last step and disregarding that the whole machine before it is another... i.e, ignored all about the workers, technology pipelines, automation, procurement, trials and errors, iterations and research for a hundred years, etc etc etc that made the donut today be mass produced for a tiny tiny fraction of the original cost to make it giftable so easily was in big part by rewarding hard work.
Also, kudos to you for thriving your business and your people to be in good health.
But it's not the government.I think the sarcasm is that many of my fellow Americans throw an absolute fit anytime the government does anything that resembles helping others, and they always attach socialism and communism to their argument against “handouts”. The post you quoted was most likely poking fun at that mentality.
I’m just trying to explain the context for why I think the original comment was sarcasm. Obviously I am aware that Apple is not the government. I’m not the person you need to argue with.But it's not the government.
agreeNot surprising at all. They want as many people to get vaccinated as possible.
unfortunately, while most will be encouraging employees to get vaccinated, they won't necessarily provide additional time offWhy is this news? Our company, and others would be encouraging their employees to get vaccinated, and wouldn't bat an eyelid if someone had to be away from work for a short while, it would definitely be paid.
yes, but most companies have a fixed number of hours or days allowed each year for sick leave. And in many cases the total paid time off, sick plus for vacation or other personal reasons, is not that much (a couple of weeks). So getting even a couple of hours without needing to use part of that fixed allowance, is a real benefit.Usually standard sick leave covers this.
Sure, but see my previous comment aboveMost larger organizations provide paid leave for medical/dental appointments. This shouldn't be any different.
If your vaccination produces temporary side effects, especially for D2, then sick leave covers it.
exactly my point (but you said it more succinctly)I think the point is, it does not count against your standard sick time.
Even if they could do it, eligibility would still be based on current phase and local conditions. And actually I think they could do it, they could contract with one of the pharmacies or another private medical provider and do it that way. But since their employees are mostly teleworking right now, it might not be any more efficient than what is already being set up and underway in their communitiesI'm really surprised Apple isn't buying batches of the vaccines and bringing in nurses to administer them for employees.
That is an absolutely true and fair statement.The fact that this is newsworthy just shows how screwed up anything around health is in the United States. In Europe this is the most normal thing in the world.