Why don’t you tell us what happened rather than this meaningless rant? If they were treated better they might perform better. But that does not seem to be a consideration of many in this country.
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Apple Retail Chief Dissuades Employees From Unionizing in New Video
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Trade unions also brought the 8-hour work day (as opposed to the old 12- to 16-hour work day).
MegaCorp Inc dissuades employees from unionizing. What a shocker.
This is disgusting honestly. And so incredibly hypocritical. Boo Apple. Don't become the evil megacorp you originally made fun of in your 1984 ad. Though of course, you already are. But it's still not too late to turn the wheel.
Some employees feel that Apple is not dedicated to its employees so I’m not sure the statement is really genuine that they think a union wouldn’t care for the employees… they need to convince them otherwise if they want to truly dissuade unionization, but if I had to be a betting man they won’t, they will just continue this bs.
Hail yeah! Unionize y'all. The plebians knew the power they wield back during heyday of the Roman Empire. Secessio plebis--plebian secession--lets see the executives make their own coffee and clean their own toilets. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts 99% of the executive can't handle the "low skill" task of the minimum wage workers.
We keep hearing how the rich got rich off hard work. Trudat. They got rich off the hard work of the underpaid working class.
We keep hearing how the rich got rich off hard work. Trudat. They got rich off the hard work of the underpaid working class.
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Scabs! Rabble rousing. Strikebreakers, billy clubs, moon shine, Model Ts, G men!, shotguns, Wobblies, clunky work boots, town store, let's go get em, boys! etc.
I don’t think you really understand what a union is or does, you have just read the hugely manipulated bad press they can receive - precisely because they’re a good thing for workers. You have misunderstood what they’re good for and how they operate.
Even though a US company, I’m surprised Apple are doing this type of thing tbh.
I came here with the same sentiment. Unions, universal healthcare, minimum wages above the poverty line, organising elections, accepting election results, a political system with a healthy opposition, … these are all things other countries do without the drama we see in the US.
It would be interesting to see the bottom line of an Apple Store in another (unionised) country compared to the US. Are they that much more expensive to run, is the customer experience better or worse, what about employee satisfaction, …
Maybe the retail workers will finally get the right to work from home, lol!
I really have a hard time understanding American companies' utter hatred of unions. Back in the day, yeah unions mgmt could be pretty awful. Also back in the day mgmt was pretty awful. But why is the base assumption today that unionization is going to be such a hardship. Why cannot Apple look at how German mgmt and unions work together to strengthen companies. They both add huge value for the company. Of course labor gets two seats on each companies' board there which I am pretty sure most C-Level execs are completely opposed to given the board's role in approving pay. I mean would the labor seats have voted for Boeing's new exec to get $250Million his first year -- the same year that Boeings customers start going public ranting about how bad Boeings mgmt is. Well, a bit off topic there. Sorry.
You experienced a retail inconvenience that lasted for what, minutes? An entire hour? So you want someone’s entire working experience to be terrible in retribution? And others here agree with this? Woweeewowowowerson that is dark.
Many decades ago if you got out of high school and didn’t go to college you could go get a good paying union job in a factory. But then corporations, CEOs, and shareholders sent those factories and jobs overseas. Now when you get out of high school and don’t go to college (or often even when you do), you get a crap paying retail or service sector job. These unionization drives for these kinds of jobs are exactly what this country needs with the dearth of good paying union factory jobs. I work at a manufacturing facility with UAW members and folks are getting between $20 and $40 an hour.
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Back when the right wing folks were demonizing unions, I asked myself why, are unions really so bad? the answer is of course, yes, if the union relationship is allowed to devolve into an adversarial one. Everything is presented as a grievance and it is always us against them. Well why not a new union management paradigm, one of cooperation and collaboration. The union is a spokes group for the employees and works with management to create the best working relationship. After all, employees goals are aligned with the company's: Treat the customers well so they will keep buying products and keep supporting the employee's livelihoods.
But yah, capitalism, as if that is ever going to happen
But yah, capitalism, as if that is ever going to happen
Because the absolute ONLY thing that most big US corporations care about is delivering value to shareholders. Period. They in no way value the welfare of their employees who to them are simply expendable cogs in the machine.
This is so true. When Apple Stores first opened everyone was an enthusiast and pretty much grown up using Mac's. I remember in 2004 I worked at Fry's and was the only person who knew anything about macs. Apple even had an online course to become an "authorized Apple seller" or something. Even got a little apple pin I got to wear to show off. Now most of the people working there only because its cool and hip and as you said, for the discount.
Why does modern society need union? You don't like the job, go to next door. Nothing is holding you back, and you are free to choose which ever one gives better benefits. If all stores do that, then Apple will have no choice but to raise compensation to retain the best talent. That is how real world market place works. What union promotes is mediocracy, is that what people really want?
Yup! Unions are bad for shareholders because that means more of the productivity and value created by the workforce as a whole goes back to the employees rather than the shareholders.
manufacturing = retail? good to know. No offense but retail has always paid low wages, apple even pays above average, yet, it is probably not enough. And why do executives at companies get so much? We always had HR meetings where they said the goal of the compensation system was to attract, retain and motivate qualified individuals. So executives getting millions, there were no qualified individuals willing to do it for less? LOL
Because the status quo of the last 40 years has gutted the middle class. Median household income is around $67k which is actually not great. Especially when compared with the median home sale price being over $400k. Unions are what built the original middle class of this country and the decline of the middle class has been in tandem with the decline in union membership rates.
Classic top Apple exec arrogance to low rank employees: we know best, you are wrong, ****ing do as you are told, working for Apple is a gift and you should be forever grateful for that immense privilege, you owe us your first born and more, **** you pleb *******s...
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Because for many people, it's much easier to complain compared to learn a new skill, educate themselves and simply find a better job if they find the current one unsuitable.
In the past folks weren’t trying to raise a families on two retail or service sector jobs. Maybe mom worked retail, if she worked at all, while dad went to his well paying factory job. If a lack of good paying jobs forces people into working retail and service sector jobs, they should absolutely unionize to get better compensation.