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Apple's New Feature That Scans Messages for Nude Photos is Only for Children, Parental Notifications Limited to Kids Under 13
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imagine, that those underage nude photos/videos are not deleted on the server.
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plot twist: the predator is on apple.
plot twist: the predator is on apple.
Just another step into invading people’s privacy… totally for getting bad people caught. But I’m not for illegal search and seizure… you have to have probable cause to scan someone’s phone for illegal things. It would be like going into someone’s home and looking through their photo albums without a search warrant. Its almost certain this will go to the Supreme Court
Statement by EFF:
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Except they aren't giving any regimes that ability so what's your point?
Its not illegal search and seizure. You are uploading your photos to a 3rd party (Apple's) service and Apple warns you that they can and do scan uploaded photos for illegal content. Its no different than you being on video when you go into a store. If you don't want your photos scanned, don't upload them to iCloud. Either keep them ONLY on your phone or use a service that doesn't scan your photos.
Although I understand the good intentions behind this. The reason I choose iOS in the first place is for privacy. This is a complete 180 from that. Instead of privacy, there is something creepy monitoring my photos. Yes, yes. Apple says, this is opt in to people who only want it. Just like iMessage was unbreakable a few weeks ago only to now know government agencies can break into your phone at will. I guess Pegasis 2.0 has a new feature they can implement to turn on and scan your photos for whatever they want to scan it for. Government agencies will love that new feature.
If Apple was sincere with the opt-in, this feature should be a separate downloadable extension and not fully baked into iOS. My phone battery already doesn't have enough charge to last a day, now I am going to have something constantly scanning everything that enters and leaves my phone. This is getting beyond ridiculous. I have no kids and I am not a creep. I don't want or need this type of monitoring on my phone. I will not be upgrading to iOS15 and this may very well be my last iPhone.
If Apple was sincere with the opt-in, this feature should be a separate downloadable extension and not fully baked into iOS. My phone battery already doesn't have enough charge to last a day, now I am going to have something constantly scanning everything that enters and leaves my phone. This is getting beyond ridiculous. I have no kids and I am not a creep. I don't want or need this type of monitoring on my phone. I will not be upgrading to iOS15 and this may very well be my last iPhone.
Just don't turn it on then? The post clearly says that noting will get scanned unless you activate it for your kids.
Once its baked into the OS, it makes it exponentially easier for bad actors to turn it on for you without you knowing. Maybe even revise what its looking for. Not that I care because i have nothing to hide. I just don’t agree with Apple’s direction of completely veering from privacy and changing it to monitoring.
So it’s an opt in feature for parents of minors. I figured that would be the case.
That is not correct. Nude photos of minors is not illegal. What is illegal is sexual images of minors. Don't believe it then rent Pretty Baby and American Beauty. Two instance of nude girls under 18. No one was arrested for making or viewing those movies.
Sure I remember being 13. I had an iPod Touch so it wasn't before the digital age. It's just that people are obviously going to be blowing up over them drawing a line at that age when it comes to child safety. The only way for them to avoid this controversy was to probably not make these features and instead leave it to third party app developers. This kind of thing seems uncharacteristic for Apple since it creates so much controversy around it, and I just personally don't think it's a smart direction for them to go. And of course, the icloud thing announced today obviously sounds creepy and everyone has strong opinions about that.
Why limit the feature just to children? I have a couple of friends (attractive women in their 20s) who definitely wouldn’t mind an automated filter for unsolicited nude photos from guys.
It never appeared to be a Big Brother move to anyone but paranoid researchers who heard it was launching today via word-of-mouth and started shouting that the sky was falling.
Growing kids in this contemporary social media/encrypted messaging age must be a true nightmare...
When I was a kid in the 90s it was so much easier for parents to keep their child safe with no internet access (at least where I live).
I don't want kids but I imagine it would be very hard nowadays to strike a healthy balance between protecting your children while giving them some freedom and keeping them under 24/7 surveillance with the risk of making them paranoid and mentally unhealthy.
I have so much respect for parents these days as the dangers children face have multiplied considerably in recent years.
On the other hand it's clear that children with oppressive and controlling parents grow up with many difficulties and are often prone to anxiety and feeling of being persecuted, not to mention most of them fly off the handle once they're 18 or 21 as they feel too euphoric when they brake free of the parents' control.
Most of my friends that had serious trouble with drugs, degeneracy and crime (even if still just petty crimes) had very strict and controlling parents.
When I was a kid in the 90s it was so much easier for parents to keep their child safe with no internet access (at least where I live).
I don't want kids but I imagine it would be very hard nowadays to strike a healthy balance between protecting your children while giving them some freedom and keeping them under 24/7 surveillance with the risk of making them paranoid and mentally unhealthy.
I have so much respect for parents these days as the dangers children face have multiplied considerably in recent years.
On the other hand it's clear that children with oppressive and controlling parents grow up with many difficulties and are often prone to anxiety and feeling of being persecuted, not to mention most of them fly off the handle once they're 18 or 21 as they feel too euphoric when they brake free of the parents' control.
Most of my friends that had serious trouble with drugs, degeneracy and crime (even if still just petty crimes) had very strict and controlling parents.
People with something to hide and clinical paranoia and no reading comprehension skills certainly won't like it.
My understanding is that ALL iCloud stored images are ALREADY scanned by Apple as a way to placate US authorities and this is not something you can opt out of.
Apple Admits Scanning Photos Uploaded to iCloud
Speaking at CES 2020, Apple's senior director of global privacy Jane Horvath admitted that company scans images uploaded to the iCloud.
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This.
I never understand why people fear the human body more than the act of hurting others.
So then is this just Apple’s first step in implementing a “smarter” way to do all this locally?My understanding is that ALL iCloud stored images are ALREADY scanned by Apple as a way to placate US authorities and this is not something you can opt out of.
Apple Admits Scanning Photos Uploaded to iCloud
Speaking at CES 2020, Apple's senior director of global privacy Jane Horvath admitted that company scans images uploaded to the iCloud.
Except it’s not the government… this isn’t new and isn’t a violation of anyone’s rights. It’s opt in… and… just read the article. Smh.
Yup. There are better ways to catch the perverts and creeps. Old fashioned police work will do.
Since Apple all of a sudden is very concerned about CP, perhaps they should simply use their incredible lobby power to enact stiffer punishments for offenders and contribute to therapy for victims.
I remain suspicious that this is a dual-use technology. The CP concern is the public facing public relations use case. Some government bullied Apple into bending the knee and join the surveillance infrastructure. And I’m no longer viewing China as the sole default boogeyman after the ongoing public freakout in the USA over the past 24 months.