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TPadden

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I think people here are confusing something: isn’t the factor to determine whether it’s light or moderate use the way you use the device, not how much you use the device, when factoring screen-on time?
Not in my opinion; when the device is a phone, screen on time is a pretty good measure of use. Most use a different device for serious gaming, simulations, and video rendering. ;)
 
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FeliApple

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Not in my opinion; when the device is a phone, screen on time is a pretty good measure of use. Most use a different device for serious gaming, simulations, and video rendering. ;)
I disagree, reducing brightness from 100% to, let’s say, 30% can have a huge difference. It can even be twice the battery life. Don’t go to gaming, simply comparing Wi-Fi and indoor brightness to outdoor brightness (80-100%) and LTE (in which case signal strength can vary significantly) can yield a significant difference on total screen-on time.

I gave two examples of factors that may change daily and impact battery life significantly, there are many more. Screen-on time alone tells me nothing.
 

TPadden

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I gave two examples of factors that may change daily and impact battery life significantly, there are many more. Screen-on time alone tells me nothing.
Then I guess the only way to tell you anything would be to tell you everything every day because yesterday, today, and tomorrow will all be different. ;)

I just don't have the time or inclination to keep you posted "daily". It's a phone that's battery lasts longer than I need it to. :)
 
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FeliApple

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Then I guess the only way to tell you anything would be to tell you everything every day because yesterday, today, and tomorrow will all be different. ;)

I just don't have the time or inclination to keep you posted "daily". It's a phone that's battery lasts longer than I need it to. :)
No, not really. Simply saying: with high brightness and LTE, using some social media, web browsing and a few phone calls I got around 6 hours of SOT, whereas web browsing, some note-taking and a little social media with Wi-Fi and 30% brightness resulted in around 8 hours of SOT gives me a general idea which can be adapted to my usage.

Is your usage heavier? Then you’re looking at 5 hours. Therefore, depending on usage, you can get 5-8 hours. That’s pretty accurate.

Do you play heavy games? Then throw everything away and try it, because I have no idea. Rough estimate? 3-5 hours.

That gives an estimate for nearly every use case.
 
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ACG12

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I had an iPhone 7 with a smart battery case and now an SE with the same. Battery life has never been a concern.
 

macintoshmac

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I specifically wanted dual SIM for travel (back when that was still possible) plus my old phone's battery is shot so *I* have a reason.

Others may not have and I have no doubt that for some, the old design (which I prefer) is considered a negative. That said, the SE 2's $400 price point has always been geared towards older models, designs and/or chipsets. For new styles, $650 has always been Apple's minimum.

On the notched devices (X and above), the dual-SIM symbol is in the signal reception indicator. I have not seen an SE photo that shows that. Is that indicator only for notched devices or does the SE also have that symbol?
 

rui no onna

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On the notched devices (X and above), the dual-SIM symbol is in the signal reception indicator. I have not seen an SE photo that shows that. Is that indicator only for notched devices or does the SE also have that symbol?
Considering non-notch phones actually have the full width available for the status icons (even has space for battery percentage), I don't see why it wouldn't be there.

Haven't had the chance to test dual SIM yet. I was going to put my normal AT&T line on eSIM and use the physical Nano SIM slot for local SIM during travel.
 
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limhenry

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On the notched devices (X and above), the dual-SIM symbol is in the signal reception indicator. I have not seen an SE photo that shows that. Is that indicator only for notched devices or does the SE also have that symbol?

Dual SIM Indicator on iPhone SE:

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macintoshmac

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Thank you @limhenry for that screenshot. I am on an 8, and considering the SE for its dual-SIM capabilities and justifiable price point. Tough competition between this device and iPhone XR in terms of price and a few features now, such as Face ID and better battery life. Downside is size on the XR, obviously.
 

imp3rator

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I get 10 hours SoT with 30% brightness and wifi with safari, instagram, mail, youtube on iPhone 11
 
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Ryguy18

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My SE2 is sufficient for the day except when that day involves using Apple Maps guidance while driving & streaming Spotify in high quality. 1.5 hour drive and the phone went from full to 55%. Still not a problem because I keep a charging cable in each car, this was just a test to see how quickly GPS would drain the battery.
 
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tonybarnaby

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My SE2 is sufficient for the day except when that day involves using Apple Maps guidance while driving & streaming Spotify in high quality. 1.5 hour drive and the phone went from full to 55%. Still not a problem because I keep a charging cable in each car, this was just a test to see how quickly GPS would drain the battery.
I wonder how much that kind of activity would hit the 11 series?
 

Dingster101

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Im barely making it through an 8 hour shift right now. Off charger at 22:30 till 7 am with very little usage( hospital worker) since I use my MB Air. By 7 I’m down to ~30%
 

jimmy_uk

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I would always factor in a few wireless chargers if buying a SE 2020. One on the office desk, one were ever you lounge at home. That way the battery is always topped up without much thought. Easy to say during the covid crisis I guess as we're not out and about as much.

My main concern would be living in a poor cellular area - constantly looking for signal hits the battery hard for my households phones.

It’s sufficient because it’s still on 100% battery health. Wait until it drops to 85% next year.
For the last two years I've had Apple replace the battery in my 7 Plus to keep it at peak performance. This is always an option and for a device I use everyday, all day, the £50 charge is worth it.
 
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boswald

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It depends on my usage, but I can typically go a half-day with YouTube and Apple Music. Then again, I only use Apple apps or webpages to enjoy content, so your mileage may vary.
 

frankenhooker

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I took mine off charge just before 6am this morning, listened to music for at least two hours via Bluetooth headphones (and via 4g), watched perhaps 30 minutes of YouTube, 3 1/2 hours screen on time and I have 35% left. 6.15pm now. Barring the two hours when I used 4g while running I’ve used WiFi.

Comfortably gets me through the day.
 
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