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ljmjag

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I always want to wait a few days before passing judgment on a new phone. But after a couple of days with the Max XS - my Plus phone seems like a baby phone. Smaller screen, a touch slower, not OLED - simply not as elegantly designed. Don't get me wrong, the Plus has been my go to phone for a bunch of generations at this point. However, putting the phones alongside one another, the Plus badly pales in comparison.

If you're on the fence about the Max - don't be. And if you're already a Plus owner and were planning to wait until next year's phone before upgrading - I completely understand that - just make sure that whatever you do, that you DO NOT go to any store that sells the Max and pick one up and play with it. It blows the plus out of the water - which by the way you can throw the Max in for quite a while before there is any damage to it.
 

PBz

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Favor to ask.. 8+ user here. Could you open an image taken in landscape on your Plus and XSM and show them top/bottom?
 

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Compared to my Max XS, my +Plus phone seems like a baby phone

how so? the longer xs max still feels smaller than the plus phones with its uneven display with rounded edges and the notch.

i even wish it would be wider and bigger.
 

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The 8+ phones are not really the ones you should go after. Go back to the 6+, as upgrading makes more sense for these.
 

Vermifuge

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Hoping to share what I already know. The image on the 8+ is significantly larger than on the XSM. Not an issue for many.. but if you are into Photos it may be.

The iPhone max is slightly wider on the narrow end resulting in larger (though only slightly) images

https://developer.apple.com/accessories/Accessory-Design-Guidelines.pdf


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PBz

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The iPhone max is slightly wider on the narrow end resulting in larger (though only slightly) images

https://developer.apple.com/accessories/Accessory-Design-Guidelines.pdf


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I have personally lined up all 3. 8+, XSM and XS. I have seen with my own eyes that the image, in landscape mode on the 8+ is larger than on the XSM. Also, the difference in the size of the image in landscape mode between the XS and XSM isn’t that significant.

I don’t need schematics to show what I have seen. I didn’t have anything to take a picture of the ‘test’ when I did it as my 8+ was being used.
 

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I have personally lined up all 3. 8+, XSM and XS. I have seen with my own eyes that the image, in landscape mode on the 8+ is larger than on the XSM. Also, the difference in the size of the image in landscape mode between the XS and XSM isn’t that significant.

I don’t need schematics to show what I have seen. I didn’t have anything to take a picture of the ‘test’ when I did it as my 8+ was being used.

The ol 'numbers vs eyesight'.
 
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PBz

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The ol 'numbers vs eyesight'.

Reminds me of John Henry.
I was very surprised. I never thought the size of a photo would be larger on the 8+. Aspect ratio I guess. I would estimate that the image on the 8+ is almost 10mm wider... say 7-8mm.
 

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I have personally lined up all 3. 8+, XSM and XS. I have seen with my own eyes that the image, in landscape mode on the 8+ is larger than on the XSM. Also, the difference in the size of the image in landscape mode between the XS and XSM isn’t that significant.

You are right. When you take out the notch (as you would in Safari or when seeing a photo), the difference is far smaller.
 

Vermifuge

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I was very surprised. I never thought the size of a photo would be larger on the 8+. Aspect ratio I guess. I would estimate that the image on the 8+ is almost 10mm wider... say 7-8mm.

10mm you say?

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I was very surprised. I never thought the size of a photo would be larger on the 8+. Aspect ratio I guess. I would estimate that the image on the 8+ is almost 10mm wider... say 7-8mm.

someone can proof this?
 

Vermifuge

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Changes to image? I lined XS, XSM & 8+ too to bottom and landscape image in 8+ was noticeably wider. We don’t know if you have cropped or zoomed this.

This is the same image on each screen. The image are NOT zoomed. It is displayed at the default size to the maximum vertical height. How would you have me do this to satisfy you? I'm the one with the proof, you are the one who said you had "personally lined up all 3. 8+, XSM and XS." the burden of proof is on you now.
 

PBz

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This is the same image on each screen. The image are NOT zoomed. It is displayed at the default size to the maximum vertical height. How would you have me do this to satisfy you? I'm the one with the proof, you are the one who said you had "personally lined up all 3. 8+, XSM and XS." the burden of proof is on you now.
I don’t own an XSM. I’ll take my IPP to show the test. Not sure what you mean by maximum vertical height. I loaded images (landscape orientation) on the XS & XSM. I opened a landscape-oriented image on my 8+. My image was noticeably wider than the XSM.
 

Vermifuge

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I don’t own an XSM. I’ll take my IPP to show the test. Not sure what you mean by maximum vertical height. I loaded images (landscape orientation) on the XS & XSM. I opened a landscape-oriented image on my 8+. My image was noticeably wider than the XSM.

It's the default view man. Where you open a photo and it snaps the the top border of the phone. You see 100% of the image with nothing cropped on the top or bottom.
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I've just taken a photo on my 7 Plus and it is exactly 9.1 cm wide (with a ruler on the screen)

That seems to mirror my findings and is well with in a 10MM margin of error LOL
 

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I found the difference. I compared images taken from a non-iPhone camera (normal 3:2 ratio) and images taken with my iPhone 8+. Images taken with 8+ are same width. Images taken with my camera are wider.

I do a lot of editing of my camera images on my iPhone.
 

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Vermifuge

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I found the difference. I compared images taken from a non-iPhone camera (normal 3:2 ratio) and images taken with my iPhone 8+. Images taken with 8+ are same width. Images taken with my camera are wider.

I do a lot of editing of my camera images on my iPhone.

So you are convinced the size is the roughly the same now?
 

PBz

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So you are convinced the size is the roughly the same now?
Yes. But wondering why images taken on iPhone giving up so much space. I assume images from my camera will also be the same size.
[doublepost=1537809298][/doublepost]Took some shots to test dynamic range while at store. 8+ holds up well. Images from store with store in foreground and bright sky in background.
 

Vermifuge

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Yes. But wondering why images taken on iPhone giving up so much space. I assume images from my camera will also be the same size.
[doublepost=1537809298][/doublepost]Took some shots to test dynamic range while at store. 8+ holds up well. Images from store with store in foreground and bright sky in background.

The iPhone has a 4:3 image sensor. A lot of other Android phones artificially crop the image down to 16:9 so it has a more pleasing look on a wide screen device. This done at the cost of loosing data (The cropped bottoms and tops of the image.)
 
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The iPhone has a 4:3 image sensor. A lot of other Android phones artificially crop the image down to 16:9 so it has a more pleasing look on a wide screen device. This done at the cost of loosing data (The cropped bottoms and tops of the image.)
I think i shoot in 3:2 with my Fuji. Here is the image from my trusty old X-E1 if anyone else wants to compare.
 
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