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jebbe

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Jun 16, 2009
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This is strictly from someone who's using iOS 7 and am not a developer(keep your comments about that to yourself, I personally don't care).

But I understand it is currently in beta simply so the Devs can develop their apps to work with it and what not. But given it's SOOOO insanely buggy, crashes all the time and whatever other strange things that happen. Developing for iOS 7 must suck at times, I'd be so insanely irritated that I couldn't even do so because everything was messing up or causing problems all the time with the device itself.

Are there any developers out there that have had these issues?
 

monaarts

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Jan 16, 2010
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Kennesaw, GA
Right now the iOS 7 beta is better than some of the previous betas (such as iOS 6, 5, etc) that have been released in regards to bugs and stability.
 

Brian Y

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Oct 21, 2012
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This is strictly from someone who's using iOS 7 and am not a developer(keep your comments about that to yourself, I personally don't care).

But I understand it is currently in beta simply so the Devs can develop their apps to work with it and what not. But given it's SOOOO insanely buggy, crashes all the time and whatever other strange things that happen. Developing for iOS 7 must suck at times, I'd be so insanely irritated that I couldn't even do so because everything was messing up or causing problems all the time with the device itself.

Are there any developers out there that have had these issues?

We don't care about that. If springboard crashes - we see the logs and know whether it was a bug. Having an app ready for day 1, however, is the only reason for using it.

The only people who moan about iOS 7 are those who use it on their every day device (even if they don't care) ;)
 

madsci954

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Oct 14, 2011
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Ohio
Right now the iOS 7 beta is better than some of the previous betas (such as iOS 6, 5, etc) that have been released in regards to bugs and stability.

Considering this and that iOS 7 is a complete overhaul, Apple is on their game at this point.
 

bankshot

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Jan 23, 2003
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I haven't had any real issues with stability when testing my apps. I did have to deal with a couple of visual/layout issues caused by changes in iOS 7, including:

  • Views now take up the entire screen vertically, even if there is a navigation bar on top. This effectively moves everything up too far, so you have to specify different vertical offsets/positions for iOS 6 & 7.

  • Standard buttons now have no background (used to be a white rounded rectangle) - they are just text. I think this is a mistake on Apple's part, because it's now more difficult for users to distinguish buttons from content. For my apps, I created a background image to use so my buttons still look like buttons.

  • Tables now have a default left margin - which looks nice in most cases - but I can't figure out how to get rid of it for the one table I have that shouldn't have any margin. I'm hoping this is something that Apple is still tweaking and/or fixing.
Other than visual stuff, things have been working reasonably well.
 

jebbe

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Jun 16, 2009
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Louisville, KY
I'm just going to throw it out there, I bet a majority of you are using an iPhone 5? haha

I have a 4S and it's nothing but polished at all. Almost every stock app does not work, touch screen stops working at random times and that seems like that could cause some really big problems with trying to work on something.
 

monaarts

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Jan 16, 2010
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I'm just going to throw it out there, I bet a majority of you are using an iPhone 5? haha

I have a 4S and it's nothing but polished at all. Almost every stock app does not work, touch screen stops working at random times and that seems like that could cause some really big problems with trying to work on something.

I have an iPhone 4s
 

Jare

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Jun 17, 2010
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Canada
It's not that bad. Some of the API changes are annoying and whatnot. But the actual OS itself is perfectly fine to test on.
 

Armen

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Apr 30, 2013
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Los Angeles
This is strictly from someone who's using iOS 7 and am not a developer(keep your comments about that to yourself, I personally don't care).

But I understand it is currently in beta simply so the Devs can develop their apps to work with it and what not. But given it's SOOOO insanely buggy, crashes all the time and whatever other strange things that happen. Developing for iOS 7 must suck at times, I'd be so insanely irritated that I couldn't even do so because everything was messing up or causing problems all the time with the device itself.

Are there any developers out there that have had these issues?

Not sure where you are getting this information from. I've been running iOS 7 on my main phone for over a week and it's stable enough to use as a daily driver.
 

batting1000

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Sep 4, 2011
7,451
1,840
Florida
I'm just going to throw it out there, I bet a majority of you are using an iPhone 5? haha

I have a 4S and it's nothing but polished at all. Almost every stock app does not work, touch screen stops working at random times and that seems like that could cause some really big problems with trying to work on something.

Have you done a clean install or do you just update?
 

Holty123

macrumors 6502
Jun 14, 2008
338
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Crington UK
This is strictly from someone who's using iOS 7 and am not a developer(keep your comments about that to yourself, I personally don't care).

But I understand it is currently in beta simply so the Devs can develop their apps to work with it and what not. But given it's SOOOO insanely buggy, crashes all the time and whatever other strange things that happen. Developing for iOS 7 must suck at times, I'd be so insanely irritated that I couldn't even do so because everything was messing up or causing problems all the time with the device itself.

Are there any developers out there that have had these issues?

No complaints from me pretty good beta mostly test on the ios sim anyhow
 

gmanist1000

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Sep 22, 2009
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This is strictly from someone who's using iOS 7 and am not a developer(keep your comments about that to yourself, I personally don't care).

But I understand it is currently in beta simply so the Devs can develop their apps to work with it and what not. But given it's SOOOO insanely buggy, crashes all the time and whatever other strange things that happen. Developing for iOS 7 must suck at times, I'd be so insanely irritated that I couldn't even do so because everything was messing up or causing problems all the time with the device itself.

Are there any developers out there that have had these issues?

Considering they've been doing this since iOS 2.0+ I don't think it's that much of a hassle.
 

DarwinOSX

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2009
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So you are not a developer posting about things you admit you don't understand but we aren't supposed to point that out....right.

iOS 7 is more than usable and stable enough on both iPhone and iPad to use for development.

This is strictly from someone who's using iOS 7 and am not a developer(keep your comments about that to yourself, I personally don't care).

But I understand it is currently in beta simply so the Devs can develop their apps to work with it and what not. But given it's SOOOO insanely buggy, crashes all the time and whatever other strange things that happen. Developing for iOS 7 must suck at times, I'd be so insanely irritated that I couldn't even do so because everything was messing up or causing problems all the time with the device itself.

Are there any developers out there that have had these issues?
 

gomoq13

macrumors 6502
Jun 17, 2013
319
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Singapore
I use iOS 7 beta as a daily driver on an iPhone 4 and 4s and an iPad 3. I only did a clean install on the 4s. Not much difference in performance and glitches, except there is a noticeable lag on the 4 and occasional random restart for the iPad 3. I'll do a clean install on the 4 and the iPad when I'm in the mood for it. Haha! I'm so used to iOS 7 already. It's hard to go back to iOS 6. Just love everything about it.
 

cjmillsnun

macrumors 68020
Aug 28, 2009
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OP It's buggy and crashes because it's a beta. But having been around iOS betas as a Dev since iOS 3 I have to agree with the others, it's fine for development, and is more stable than some of the other Betas I've come across.

It's not for you.
 

xcodeaddict

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Mar 2, 2013
602
0
This is strictly from someone who's using iOS 7 and am not a developer(keep your comments about that to yourself, I personally don't care).

But I understand it is currently in beta simply so the Devs can develop their apps to work with it and what not. But given it's SOOOO insanely buggy, crashes all the time and whatever other strange things that happen. Developing for iOS 7 must suck at times, I'd be so insanely irritated that I couldn't even do so because everything was messing up or causing problems all the time with the device itself.

Are there any developers out there that have had these issues?

"Keep your comments to yourself, I personally don't care"

Ironic that - nor do we. Please carry on imagining being "insanely irritated" in isolation, thanks.

Anything else?
 

daviddth

macrumors 6502a
Jun 29, 2009
787
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Australia
The only people who moan about iOS 7 are those who use it on their every day device (even if they don't care) ;)

I am and I don't, and I am legit :)

In English: I am using it on my everyday device
I don't complain about the crashes as I can deal with it
It is a legit install. I have a developers account and I am playing with developing a program in my spare time.
 

xcodeaddict

macrumors 6502a
Mar 2, 2013
602
0
"Developing for iOS 7 must suck"

Eating the ingredients for Steak and Chips, uncooked, must also "suck" :p
 
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