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it's how all hit records are made (and has been so, since the dawn of time...)
Maybe you shouldn't have 1300 plugins? That's just simply silly. There's no way you can honestly expect all of them to survive every OS update.
OP has disappeared. Trolling?
As noted earlier, anyone who relies on his or her Mac for business is foolish to try to run that business under a new OS at .0 or .1 release, much less the GM Candidate. To do so is, IMO, simply unprofessional.
I am looking forward experimenting with High Sierra (after safely cloning my known-good startup drive) when it hits .2 or .3. Absent solid early reports of dramatically enhanced DAW performance, there is simply no good reason to jump on the early adopter bandwagon. Unless you REALLY need those new emojis.
As noted earlier, anyone who relies on his or her Mac for business is foolish to try to run that business under a new OS at .0 or .1 release, much less the GM Candidate. To do so is, IMO, simply unprofessional.
I am looking forward experimenting with High Sierra (after safely cloning my known-good startup drive) when it hits .2 or .3. Absent solid early reports of dramatically enhanced DAW performance, there is simply no good reason to jump on the early adopter bandwagon. Unless you REALLY need those new emojis.
i've been in the apple public beta system for a long time, and, while i never install a beta during, say, the middle of a mix, i enjoy testing the OS, and i enjoy the challenges i sometimes encounter (mostly). it's my choice, and it's never kept me from finishing a project.
the point for anyone, regardless of what they do, or if they install on their work mac (or not); it's a beta program, so if you install a beta, you are commiting to possible issues, madness, darkness and destruction; and possible good moments too. one can be 'professional' and 'adventurous' at the same time; as long as we take responsibilty for our choices.
Can we just all agree that everyone must have at least 1 CCC style backup of your system and we all know it? Ideally, 1 of them is for installing the beta on it and boot from it and test.
That being out of the way, when we talk about beta problems, we're just looking for fixs, common bug reports, compatibility problems...There doesnt seem to be a need to pollute these threads with "its a beta!"
CCC should be a requirement with the beta program! Definitely the safest/fastest way to test.
So you installed a beta software on a production machine, specifically designed to be tested by people that have signed up to be beta testers so that the issues are kept to a minimum when it is actually released to general public.
Now you are complaining that Apple is testing beta software on people that have signed up to do exactly that?
Its a gold master smart guy. So by good betting odds this crap will in fact be the official release version.
Ok, I have to agree it is totally a disaster! I mean, it's a massive step backwards & apple has pretty much tied our hands behind our backs & sucker punched us...in the face. How could they do this to us? I didn't sign up for this (except by signing up for the beta) & I expect better. The colors are an absolute disaster & there's absolutely no way to work through. Do you know how much time it took to install this, & now I need to find a way to roll back! Do they expect us to back us & restore? Does Apple Pay (<-hah, auto correct) for CCC for SD for us? I mean what do they expect me (probably the only person who thinks that wallpaper just doesn't work) to do? Change it? Do you know how much work that is? (a click on system preferences, desktop & screensaver, then on the preferred wallpaper) I absolutely refuse to do any more work to fix this on my own! (how many keys did I strike to write this satire?) Time to submit a beta report & ...shoot, I just changed the wallpaper already, oh well, moot point now.
smart guy
its a Gold Master Candidate and still has a beta status check you system info. and GM or Release do not have a letter after the build number
its not the release yet if it does not work when the release version is out then check with you app vendor for updates before you all jump to conclusions who is to blame
as for using a beta software to earn your corn with that is just plain stupid at least wait until the .1 release before doing that
Correct here as chrfr stated, and in the past there have been instances of multiple GM builds released prior to a release to public.
No, OP is busy at his studio making big records. Remember, he's been a engineer and producer for over 20 years.
Sorry dude, but I feel no sympathy for you. You clearly took a risk installing a new OS on a system that you make your living with. You NEVER install a new OS until you're sure all the kinks are worked out and the software you rely on is properly supported. Lesson learned I guess.
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It's a GM Candidate. It's not for sure the final release build. You should not have installed a beta OS on a production machine.
End of thread. Nothing more needs to be said.
End of thread. Nothing more needs to be said.
Since someone in this thread mentioned his professionallity, and since I have been working professionally in the audio industry for over 45 years, and since I still do not consider myself as having mastered all there is to master, I think that anyone installing new software, whether GM, beta, official released, or not, a breakthrough update with a new file system or just a minor little mini update, may expect problems.
Therefor such an act should not be considered and act that demonstrates skillful professionalism.
I ALWAYS wait until the manufacturer of my favourite audio editing software says that I can. And I will check with the issuers of the plugins that I have. And then I will still take some extra time for my work because some things may still not work as expected.
I think that it is always good to update, but it is also always good to wait a while.
(And since I am also curious I tried to see what happens to ProTools while my MacBook Pro was High on Sierra. It worked! ;-)
Therefor such an act should not be considered and act that demonstrates skillful professionalism.
I ALWAYS wait until the manufacturer of my favourite audio editing software says that I can. And I will check with the issuers of the plugins that I have. And then I will still take some extra time for my work because some things may still not work as expected.
I think that it is always good to update, but it is also always good to wait a while.
(And since I am also curious I tried to see what happens to ProTools while my MacBook Pro was High on Sierra. It worked! ;-)
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But I am worried if Apple doesn't release another GM because the OS is not OK at this point.
Fingers crossed for a release today or tomorrow.
I have it installed on personal test Mac and many things don't work properly.
I agree with you no doubt about it.
But I am worried if Apple doesn't release another GM because the OS is not OK at this point.
Fingers crossed for a release today or tomorrow.
I have it installed on personal test Mac and many things don't work properly.
or one can be a professional who's up for the challenges often associated with a beta OS (i know of someone like that
). i've run apple betas for years, and also: have always finished my projects on time (and, to be honest, have sometimes finished a remix or something and then run the latest beta).we don't all live by the same rules, and this makes the world an interesting place.
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And in all of those 20 years, this is the first software/OS update to mess with audio recording setups.
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I use an external 128GB SSD as my OS test bed. Not as fast as internal, but still way faster than a spinning disk. Beta installs take roughly 20 minutes. This way I have my production system untouched, and beta system easily moved between different machines for testing.
or one can be a professional who's up for the challenges often associated with a beta OS (i know of someone like that
we don't all live by the same rules, and this makes the world an interesting place.
hahahahaha
But is your beta testing behaviour an act of skillful professionalism?
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OP has a problem with one, or several of his plugins, I don’t know why he’s surprised (and now vanished). With over 1300 of them that was to be expected. By the way, UA *specifically mentions on their website* that their products are not ready for High Sierra yet.
Oh well...
I haven’t counted all my plugins but I have quite a few, all of them work, both Pro Tools and LPX seem pretty happy with the update so far...(not GM or anything)
Oh well...
I haven’t counted all my plugins but I have quite a few, all of them work, both Pro Tools and LPX seem pretty happy with the update so far...(not GM or anything)
1300 plugins per track, because they're needed to get that 'pro' sound. and 1300 tracks, because i like my productions to sound big. if that isn't pro, i don't know what is....
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i am, in fact, a professional beta tester. doesn't that prove i'm right about everything?
Lenny Kravitz live-streamed a recording session on Instagram last weekend where he was recording with a brass-band of 20-30 people in What looked like a small gymnasium. Mics were everywhere! Maybe this is how one gets to 1300 tracks??? :-D
I had never seen a recording room that big before.
I had never seen a recording room that big before.
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Well, 10.3.1 beta seemed to have solved my "gradient" problem in logic, but now my Arrangement tab detects 5 displays ( I only have the retina screen on mbp and 1 display connected)