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Random_Matt

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So I wanted to change my DNS to Cloudflare (1.1.1.1). On the RT2600AC do I use the internet section or the DHCP section? I'm just an average user with the router and desktop.
 

belvdr

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Thanks. Is Cloudfare the fastest DNS compared to Google's?
These days, major DNS providers, such as CloudFlare, Google, and OpenDNS, are all very responsive. You'll likely see no difference in performance between the three of them.
 
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Alvin777

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These days, major DNS providers, such as CloudFlare, Google, and OpenDNS, are all very responsive. You'll likely see no difference in performance between the three of them.
Thanks. Which do you personally use (favorite)?
 

belvdr

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Nobody has more locations than Cloudflare
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
“just like every other city in our network, new sites run DNS Resolver, 1.1.1.1 on day-one!”
https://blog.cloudflare.com/dns-resolver-1-1-1-1/
If it works for you, go for it. I don't care about how many locations a provider claims to have, if they all have similar performance.
Code:
[user@host ~]$ for IP in 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 1.1.1.1; do echo "  >>>>  ${IP}"; dig +noall +stats www.macrumors.com @${IP}; done
  >>>>  208.67.222.222
;; Query time: 16 msec
;; SERVER: 208.67.222.222#53(208.67.222.222) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Wed Sep 28 14:06:19 EDT 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 94

  >>>>  208.67.220.220
;; Query time: 13 msec
;; SERVER: 208.67.220.220#53(208.67.220.220) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Wed Sep 28 14:06:19 EDT 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 94

  >>>>  1.1.1.1
;; Query time: 16 msec
;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Wed Sep 28 14:06:19 EDT 2022
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 94
 
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bogdanw

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If it works for you, go for it.
It seems to work for me
dnstest.jpg

https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest
Easy to test

Code:
git clone --depth=1 https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest/
cd dnsperftest
./dnstest.sh
 

belvdr

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It seems to work for me
View attachment 2083092

https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest
Easy to test

Code:
git clone --depth=1 https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest/
cd dnsperftest
./dnstest.sh
Ok, but again, the difference is minimal from my network. The tool is only testing one server per provider and has some syntax issues on Arch, so I'll stick with my tests.

EDIT: I fixed the script for my system. Some of the DNS servers are not accurate either so I removed them. Here are my results, for what it's worth:
Code:
[user@host dnsperftest]$ ./dnstest.sh
                     test1   test2   test3   test4   test5   test6   test7   test8   test9   test10  Average
8.8.8.8              16 ms   13 ms   13 ms   16 ms   20 ms   16 ms   13 ms   16 ms   20 ms   13 ms     15.60
8.8.4.4              16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   16 ms   16 ms   13 ms   16 ms     16.10
cloudflare           16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   16 ms   23 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   13 ms     17.20
level3               16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms     16.40
google               16 ms   13 ms   20 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   13 ms   16 ms     15.80
quad9                10 ms   6 ms    10 ms   3 ms    10 ms   6 ms    6 ms    10 ms   3 ms    6 ms      7.00
freenom              23 ms   40 ms   36 ms   20 ms   46 ms   20 ms   233 ms  23 ms   16 ms   53 ms     51.00
opendns222123        16 ms   13 ms   23 ms   16 ms   16 ms   103 ms  16 ms   23 ms   16 ms   16 ms     25.80
opendns222222        16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   13 ms   16 ms   16 ms   23 ms   16 ms   36 ms     18.40
opendns220220        20 ms   16 ms   36 ms   23 ms   16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   13 ms   26 ms   33 ms     21.90
norton               16 ms   20 ms   20 ms   20 ms   16 ms   13 ms   16 ms   16 ms   16 ms   13 ms     16.60
cleanbrowsing        20 ms   16 ms   20 ms   20 ms   103 ms  16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   20 ms   43 ms     29.40
neustar              23 ms   20 ms   23 ms   20 ms   23 ms   20 ms   20 ms   23 ms   20 ms   23 ms     21.50
comodo               20 ms   16 ms   20 ms   20 ms   16 ms   20 ms   16 ms   20 ms   20 ms   20 ms     18.80
nextdns              16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   20 ms   16 ms   16 ms   20 ms   20 ms   16 ms   16 ms     17.60
 
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NoBoMac

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Will +1 Quad9 as a backup (9.9.9.9). Used it as primary when it first came out, now is #2 in my DNS lists after Cloudflare. As @bogdanw screen shot shows, generally have seen pretty good performance (but that 124ms number really skews the numbers).
 

belvdr

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Will +1 Quad9 as a backup (9.9.9.9). Used it as primary when it first came out, now is #2 in my DNS lists after Cloudflare. As @bogdanw screen shot shows, generally have seen pretty good performance (but that 124ms number really skews the numbers).
Yeah, any of these providers are good and their performance is going to be highly dependent on a number of factors and vary per user.

I've used all of them at one time or another. I landed on OpenDNS to block malicious websites from even loading. The security aspects differ significantly between providers.
 
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bogdanw

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I landed on OpenDNS to block malicious websites from even loading. The security aspects differ significantly between providers.
1.1.1.1 for Families https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-1-1-1-1-for-families/
Malware Blocking Only
Change your router DNS to:
1.1.1.2
1.0.0.2

Malware and Adult Content Blocking Together
Change your router DNS to:
1.1.1.3
1.0.0.3
https://cloudflare-dns.com/family/

Off topic, as it’s not for routers, I am using cloudflared DNS over HTTPS https://github.com/b0gdanw/cloudflared-macos
 
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