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Box2secure

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Just wondering if the XS max oled would be more better than the x and before coming to iOS i used a galaxy note 8 without the knowledge of screen burn in for I do recalling used a bright screen and no caution at all but still phone got me through a year and was sold…., just feel not all units of either iPhone or Samsung using oled panels would have a burn in.., what do you think
 

aevan

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Just wondering if the XS max oled would be more better than the x and before coming to iOS i used a galaxy note 8 without the knowledge of screen burn in for I do recalling used a bright screen and no caution at all but still phone got me through a year and was sold…., just feel not all units of either iPhone or Samsung using oled panels would have a burn in.., what do you think

All OLED screens can burn in. With that said, Apple took precautions in software to move pixels around. I had an iPhone X for 3 years and saw no burn in, now I’ve had a 12 Pro Max for a year - and the same. Just make sure not to leave the screen on for hours (set the auto-lock to 30 seconds or 1min) and you should be fine.
 

Box2secure

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All OLED screens can burn in. With that said, Apple took precautions in software to move pixels around. I had an iPhone X for 3 years and saw no burn in, now I’ve had a 12 Pro Max for a year - and the same. Just make sure not to leave the screen on for hours (set the auto-lock to 30 seconds or 1min) and you should be fine.
 

Shadowbech

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I guess it depends on what you do and the condition it is. Yes, iPhones with OLED can get burn-in’s and I‘ve had one happen to to my 2 day old 12 pro max. Basically used it as a GPS and was on the dashboard and the sun was blasting heat and the phone was hot, and definitely noticed the burn in on the screen. Since it was within the return window, I was able to return it.
 

joeblow7777

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Theoretically any OLED display can experience burn-in/ image retention.
In a practical sense, with normal usage, you’re unlikely to experience burn-in during your ownership of the phone.
 

Fred Zed

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Theoretically any OLED display can experience burn-in/ image retention.
In a practical sense, with normal usage, you’re unlikely to experience burn-in during your ownership of the phone.
It normally occurs for those users that use maps ( google maps )daily on full nit brightness. Like delivery drivers for example.
 
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Sheepish-Lord

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All OLED screens can burn in. With that said, Apple took precautions in software to move pixels around. I had an iPhone X for 3 years and saw no burn in, now I’ve had a 12 Pro Max for a year - and the same. Just make sure not to leave the screen on for hours (set the auto-lock to 30 seconds or 1min) and you should be fine.
I don't think Apple has stated it uses pixel shift so I wouldn't make that claim. However, between auto brightness and the fact that when most people use a phone it's not for extended sessions or if it is there is usually content moving on the screen helps. Key elements to reduce burn-in are reduced peak brightness and reduced static images for extended periods.
 

joeblow7777

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It normally occurs for those users that use maps ( google maps )daily on full nit brightness. Like delivery drivers for example.
Yes, but having the same app on screen at full brightness for several hours every day isn't normal usage for most people.
 

joeblow7777

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Aren’t most people Uber or food delivery drivers in America?🤣
Joking aside. I didn’t say what you said I said. Read my comment again.
I didn't say that you said anything, but I think we are in agreement. The bottom line is that only very specific use cases are likely to lead to burn-in.
 
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aevan

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I don't think Apple has stated it uses pixel shift so I wouldn't make that claim. However, between auto brightness and the fact that when most people use a phone it's not for extended sessions or if it is there is usually content moving on the screen helps. Key elements to reduce burn-in are reduced peak brightness and reduced static images for extended periods.

I remember they mentioning it in an interview, they are shifting pixels, but I don’t think I can find the source.
 

Nhwhazup

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No burn in with my iPhone. However, we have an LG OLED TV which has terrible burn in from watching the cable news during the mornings with the bar across the bottom and station logo. I won’t buy another OLED TV.

Hahaha. Well we bought a new HD LED TV and guess what? We returned it and bought a new OLED. The picture on the LED was just awful compared to the OLED. It was like looking through 5 dirty windows.
 
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MK500

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If you would like to see what image burn-in looks like on an iPhone X, here is a photo I just took. I'm not upset about this, as it's not something you really notice unless on a mostly white screen (and I tend to use "dark mode" for most things).

Image burn in is a normal thing for all OLED screens due to the organic nature of the display. Over years it can happen if you use applications where a single part of the screen stays in place for long periods of time. This is why I chose an LED for our main TV, as I play a lot of games that have static components on-screen (and we keep our TVs for 10 years or more). I'm also happy with my MBP 14" LED screen, as if I had some sort of burn-in on my laptop display it would absolutely drive me nuts. And I'm pretty sure I'll still be using my MBP in 7 years. But on a phone it's really not nearly as big of a deal; and it's hard for a phone to last much beyond 7 years.

In the case of our iPhone X; my wife shot a number of long videos (45 minutes to an hour). During that time the camera app will show certain interface elements (like the button).

I started noticing the burn in when I would use her phone at around the 3 year mark, but didn't mention it to her (and she never noticed it or at least never mentioned it to me). No reason to point out something like this to someone who is enjoying their device; as it may be hard to "un-see", haha.

This is a well cared for iPhone X (still looks like new). I bought it at launch for my wife and just upgraded her to a 13 Pro. I think I will now use the X for a few years more. We tend to buy highest end iPhones and then keep them in the family until Apple no longer allow OS updates for the model.

Shot with a Canon 5D. Had to adjust the exposure to see what the eye sees; as it would be hard to capture this normally. Sorry for the hair in the corner; we have a dog and I'm too lazy to re-shoot. Ignore the moire; it's caused by the camera, and the exposure level. I could have probably done better with this photo if I took more time; but I figured this served the purpose.

Screen is at about 45% brightness. You will likely need to click the image or go to full screen on the image to see the burn in.

OLED_burn.jpg
 
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Nhwhazup

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I can’t really notice anything with your X.

We had a 2017 LG OLED TV with burn in from watching cable news. The right hand bottom corner would should green blobs burn in but only on backgrounds that were red, orange or brown.

When we were looking for a new TV, we bought HD LED. But guess what? The picture quality was awful. No matter how much tweaking I did, it was like looking through 5 dirty windows. We ended up returning it and getting a new OLED.
 
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