To clarify, the ‘your phone’ in my reply is not directed to you personally. You = general reference. Much apologies if I was being unclear.
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iPhone 15/Plus Do you consider iPhone 15 a new design?
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To clarify, the ‘your phone’ in my reply is not directed to you personally. You = general reference. Much apologies if I was being unclear.
Whether minor changes to the physical design of a product constitute it as a "new design" can be subjective and depend on various factors, including the industry and consumer expectations. In some cases, even minor changes can be marketed as a new iteration or version of a product to attract consumers. However, as you allude to, it's essential to consider the significance of the changes, as well as any functional improvements or added features. Sometimes, a more significant overhaul is needed to truly represent a "new design." The definition of a "new design" can vary from one product category to another.
DI does not qualify as a new design to me. If the 16 is just bigger with same design it is also not a new design, just different form factor…
15 Pro feels different to hold, but looks pretty much the same..
So basically we are still at the 12 Pro design, with minor tweaks here and there.
Personally I don’t really mind. I don’t need change for the sake of change. The changes on the 15 Pro make sense to me though and improve on my previous complaints . (Lighter and more comfortable to hold with rounded edges)
G1 - own design
3G/3GS - curved plastic back
4/4S - sandwich design with flat sides
5/5S/SE1 - flat sides with aluminum back + glass windows
6-11, SE2-3 rounded frame and curved screen glass
12+ flat frame, with minor revisions on each generation
3G/3GS - curved plastic back
4/4S - sandwich design with flat sides
5/5S/SE1 - flat sides with aluminum back + glass windows
6-11, SE2-3 rounded frame and curved screen glass
12+ flat frame, with minor revisions on each generation
DI changes the usability of iPhone quite a bit. That previously dead space is now active.
iPhone 16's taller form factor is not just bigger, it changes the aspect ratio of videos and apps.
No matter what Apple does including a brand new design will still send people into a negative frenzy.
I consider it a brand new design. The changes are significant enough to feel very different in hand.
How many different ways can you design a black glass rectangle? The only real differentiator is how it feels, and this feels different.
How many different ways can you design a black glass rectangle? The only real differentiator is how it feels, and this feels different.
The iPhone 15 is not a new design. It's the same design not only as the iPhone 14, but also the 13, 12, and 11. A more appropriate name for the iPhone 15 would be iPhone 11ssss.
Tim Cook wants to rake in as much cash as possible. Therefore, he likes cutting corners on research and development. He likes only small incremental changes because that maximizes profits. That's what you get when you have an MBA as CEO instead of a visionary. You have a have a corporate scumbag who has a thought process like McKinsey (a firm that MBAs worship) instead of someone with a thought process that's imaginative.
Tim Cook wants to rake in as much cash as possible. Therefore, he likes cutting corners on research and development. He likes only small incremental changes because that maximizes profits. That's what you get when you have an MBA as CEO instead of a visionary. You have a have a corporate scumbag who has a thought process like McKinsey (a firm that MBAs worship) instead of someone with a thought process that's imaginative.
The fact is the new Apple 15 Pro is a better phone, if one starts using it you quickly find it is an improvment over the past iPhones, now is it really worth costing over a Grand+ that depends on what phone your coming from and how you are finding this new phone.
Looks wise I consider it the same design as the X, just with some tweaks every year after, some more significant than others. The dynamic island is pretty major, especially to me since I hated the notch. The size increase of iPhone 12 was also pretty major.
But still iPhone 15 has the same basic design as the X. Which is perfect fine by me because there really isn’t much to improve upon.
But still iPhone 15 has the same basic design as the X. Which is perfect fine by me because there really isn’t much to improve upon.
No we did not have a "new design". If that is a new design then so are the rounded edges of the 15. You don't get to cherry pick.
Almost every iphone gets design changes. Not every iphone gets a "new design". The last "new design" was iphone 12.
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Dynamic Island is as significant as the Home button. Everyone can spot the new silhouette with Dynamic Island. New iOS interactions too. Nobody can easily see rounded edges.
Home button, notch, narrow notch, DI. It’s Apple’s signature. Very easy to see what generation iPhone you have just based on the design.
narrow notch? You’re not calling the 13 a new design too are you? Lol absolutely not you’ve gone off the deep end.
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Didn't say it was. Comparing the microscopically curved edges on the iPhone 15 Pro to the Dynamic Island on the iPhone 14 Pro. People are far more likely consider the DI a design change.
Then don’t list the narrow notch in your list of “iconic” design elements lol.
By the way you’re moving the goal posts. You started with “new design” and now just calling it a “design change.” Anything that affects fit, form, or function is a design change. Cut a hole in the screen? Design change. Change the angle of cuts on the chassis? Design change. Put bigger camera lenses on? Design change. New color? Design change.
Every model year of a car has minor changes to its appearance. If a car gets a new grill slapped on mid cycle, it’s not a new design. The new design is when the program gets a full refresh.
If a phone gets a hole cut into the screen instead of a notch, it’s not a new design. It’s a small modification on an existing design. The new design launched 4 phone ago.
If we base our decision on whether something is a “new design” based on how easily noticed it is, then we have to call the iPhone 5S a new design too, right? Apple didn’t even call it a new design given the name.
Agree to disagree, I guess.
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The topic of this thread is clearly subjective.
Personally, I consider mid-cycle car refreshes to be new design. Whether that's major or minor is up to debate.
The notch to island is a new/major design change/refresh, whatever you want to call it, in my opinion. It's not just a cut out, it significantly changes how users interact with the phone. Nobody tapped that black area before iPhone 14 Pro.
For iPhone 5S, I don't know many people who can readily distinguish between iPhone 5, 5S, or SE (2016). But I'd say most grandmothers could spot the notch/DI difference 6 ft. away.
The software update changes how we interact with the phone. Just like WatchOS10 changes how we interact with the watch.
TouchID was a bigger design change than the Dynamic Island. A new sensor that eliminates password locks vs a hole in the screen. And nobody would call the 5S a redesign.