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iPadThai

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So I bought this unit:

UPDATE (6/6/2010): BTSTACK GPS version 1.3 WORKS WITH NAVIGON ON iPAD WIFI (non-3G model)!!!! AND it fixes the JUMPY speedo! so it's all good!

Video of working Navigon + iPad Wifi model + BTStack GPS 1.2-24995 + QStarz Q818x:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yU6raDM3TY

You can fast foward but there are some speed issues (the MPH indicator will go bezerk but the GPS data is accurately maintained, however. Email is dispatched to the dev regarding this issue)


QStarz 818x Bluetooth 66Channel, MTK2 external GPS unit w/A-GPS
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what it comes with:
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the QStarz 818x unit
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USB Port for charging (AND DATA!):
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The Control switches (1-5Hz for API software tracking):
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The bottom of the unit (includes anti slip; gripping pad to put on car dash or texture surfaces):
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The lithium-ion battery - good for 42+ hours CONTINUOUS USAGE!
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The size of the 818x compared to an iPhone 3GS:
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The Thickness of the 818x compared to an iphone 3GS with case
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The unit in pairing mode (yellow and blue lights; battery green light to the right of the bluetooth)
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I am using roqyBT (GPS) - on the iPad -

Video of satellite sync
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIIX1Y0iW8w
(see post #61 for details)


Video of Navigon running on iPad WIFI model using roqyGPS w/QStarz Q818x GPS unit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCLTxZIXMFY
(see post #62 for details)

edit: 5/10/2010: Navigon seems to have a problem on the iPad - I'm sure it's a navigon only issue since google maps has no issue whatsoever using the roqyGPS and my QStarz Q818x unit. Google maps actually track movement without problems...just that there are no maps being update as the car moves obviously since it's not connected to any data.


in theory, this should work 100% I will know when my gps device arrives.

1) Install roqyBT
2) Use bluetooth GPS device
3) Use Navigon software (even if not iPad compatible yet will work)

edit: 5/11/2010: Navigon DOES INDEED TRACK - HOWEVER IT WORKS WITH QUIRKS. WHEN YOU ARE IN THE "SHOW MAPS" MODE, YOU WILL SEE THAT NAVIGON DOES INDEED TRACK YOUR POSITION. WHEN YOU TRAVERSE, IT WILL DISPLAY YOUR COORDINATES IN REAL TIME. HOWEVER, IT HAS ALOT OF ISSUES SUCH AS ORIENTATION PROBLEMS (SHOWS THAT YOU ARE POINTING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION BUT MOVING FORWARD - GIVING A LOOK AS IF YOU ARE MOVING BACKWARDS!). When you set a destination to go towards, it will pinpoint your current location - then it just stops and not update your location; it seems that way but during your traversing, navigon will sometimes randomly display your movement but at many times more than some, it will show you moving strangely!

But GOOGLE MAPS WORKS!! (see post #69)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FB8GVzA5nE


You don't even need to have the iPad 3G model to get GPS! Thanks to roqyBT, you can use almost all NMEA GPS receivers!

I'll report back when I get the gps unit this week!
 

Advil

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Oct 4, 2008
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You didn't 'enable' it haha... you just bought a device for it.

'Enable' hints that there is a GPS chip in the iPad that isn't on. Which would be pointless to include if it wasn't enabled.
 

iPadThai

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You didn't 'enable' it haha... you just bought a device for it.

'Enable' hints that there is a GPS chip in the iPad that isn't on. Which would be pointless to include if it wasn't enabled.

you're gonna be eating your own dung after I receive my unit and get a video to show it off working 100%.
And semantics issues - who cares if it's not built in, I wanted to buy an iPad3G but I don't think I need to now!

;):D
 

CrAkD

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Feb 15, 2010
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thats kinda cool. for people who bought a wifi and wanna use it in their cars. let us know if it works.
 

iPadThai

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How much is this unit?

It's an MTK2 device.

66Channels - one of the highest dbm sensitive gps with about over 40 hours of use. You can google the unit: QStarz BT-818x

The unit is about $63 purchased online.

You can get any SIRF3 or MTK/MTK2 units and it is compatible. Here's a list of compatible devices (from the roqyBT forums): Navigon, tom tom, even google maps will work with roqyBT and any of these devices tested so far

Adapt
AD-300 OK
AD-350+ OK
AD-500 OK
AD-700 OK
BLUENEXT
GPS BN-900GR OK
GPS BN-905GR OK
GPS BN-909GR OK
Blumax
DE 64347066
GPS-710 OK
GPS-4013 OK
Cellular line
BTGPS440 OK
Delorme
Delorme Earthmate Blue Logger
Dell
BT-332 OK
DEVO
NAV-300 OK
eBon technologies
eGPS-397 OK
eGPS-6500 OK
Emtac
Trine BTGPS OK
Trine Crux II Device pincode "0183"
Evolve
Evolve BTGPS Touch Traxx
FAC
BT-30 OK
Falcom
Navi XT OK
Flaircom
GPSBT-560 OK
Fortuna
Clip-on OK
Freedom
Mini Keychain 2000 BTGPS OK
F-TECH
CONNECTO SOLARE 51 BT2.5MR OK
Garmin
GPS 10X OK
GlobalSAT
BT-308 Device pincode "2003"
BT-359 OK
BT-338 OK
BT-368i OK
GlobalTop
G66plus Touch OK
Gopass
GPT-700 OK
Gspace
GS-R238 OK
GS-R320 OK
Hicom
HI-408BT
Holox
BT-541 OK
Holux
BT-321 OK
GPSlim 236 OK
GPSlim 240 OK
M-241 OK
M-1200 OK
M-1000 OK
M-1000C OK
GR-231 OK
GR-239 OK
I-Blue
iBlue 737 (or iBT-GPS) OK
I-Bluetooth GPS Mouse OK
Jentro
BT-GPS4 OK
BT-GPS8 OK
Keomo
No Model #
Leadtek
BT 9537 OK
BT 9553 OK
BT 9559X OK
Navibe
GB375,BTGPS V10 OK
GB737,BTGPS V20 OK
Navigon
S3N BTGPS OK
Navilock
BT-359 OK
Nokia
LD-1W OK
LD-4W OK
LD-3W OK
N78 NOK ciphered com, not working yet!
PalmOne
PalmOne BTGPS OK
PENTAGRAM
PathFinder P 3000 OK
PathFinder P 3101 OK
PathFinder P 3106 OK
Phonix
BGR01 OK
Polaris
BT-65 OK
i65V OK
5in1 OK
QStarz
BT-Q770 OK
BT-Q816X OK
BT-Q818X OK
BT-Q1000 OK
BT-Q1000x OK
BT-Q1200 (Ultra Solar) OK
BT-Q1300 OK
BT-Q1300S OK
Royaltec
BT GPS seen as BlueGPS OK
MBT-1000 OK
RBT-1000 OK
RBT-2001 OK
RBT-2100 OK
RBT-2110 OK
RBT 2200 :?: please report on this device :!:
RBT-2210
RBT-2300 OK
RTG-2000 OK
SBS
BA585 OK
Stars navigation
BT-74S OK
Syson
SOC2S03X OK
Tomtom
gps model nr. 0821.x OK
BTGPS MKII OK ....NOTE: some G2 problems!
GPS 9821x OK
Transystem inc
I-Blue 747 OK
WEIOM
wgs-84 OK
Wintec
WBT-201 (G-RAYS II) OK
XaiOX
Diamond OK
Marathon OK
No Brand name
BT-412 OK
GNT-120 OK
JRT-29 OK
NBT-007 OK
 

peteo

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Sep 23, 2007
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is roqyBT working on the iPad yet? I know some blue tooth programs do not
 

iPadThai

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Apr 25, 2010
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thats kinda cool. for people who bought a wifi and wanna use it in their cars. let us know if it works.

I"m going to post up a whole video review of it. I'm excited - considering how JB really opened up the opportunities with the iPad!

I want a really reliable gps receiver - the iPhone and even the tomtom mount is a rip really.

This sucker Qstarz BT818x is an MTK2 unit - provides about 40+ hours of usage!
 

iPadThai

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Apr 25, 2010
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is roqyBT working on the iPad yet? I know some blue tooth programs do not

roqyBT works on iPhone - tested using the BT GPS only. There is another app for file transfers it's called roqyFiles
It seems to be working for the iPad as well - just have to get my unit and test. But the iPad and iPhone shares the exact same BT hardware.

this one is only for BT GPS devices.
 

iPadThai

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Apr 25, 2010
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Can you locate yourself on a wifi iPad similar to on the iPod Touch?

you can use the triangulation method using WIFI mode only. But the iPad WIFI model DOES include a magnetnometer.
 

Advil

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Oct 4, 2008
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you're gonna be eating your own dung after I receive my unit and get a video to show it off working 100%.
And semantics issues - who cares if it's not built in, I wanted to buy an iPad3G but I don't think I need to now!

;):D

I'm just giving you crap :p

For 63 bucks thats definitely worth looking into... I'm interested now! I have 3g on my wifi ipad via tethering and don't think I'd need gps. but it definitely couldn't hurt!
 

iPadThai

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Apr 25, 2010
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I'm just giving you crap :p

For 63 bucks thats definitely worth looking into... I'm interested now! I have 3g on my wifi ipad via tethering and don't think I'd need gps. but it definitely couldn't hurt!

don't worry, I'm not offended ;)

I just thought it would be sweet to have an option for us wifi only owners. Since I can't afford another iPad 3G, the lucky ones already have a clean solution with the gps built right in!

It's a way for poor folk to get more value from their existing hardware :)
You can get a $19 GPS unit and it will work fine too. No need for 66channels but hey, $63 isn't that much compared to say a tomtom gps mount!

And the benefits are huge: 9.7" car navigation and the sucker's battery lasts so long, it's so legit!
 

Advil

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Oct 4, 2008
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I expect a full review.

I'd rather have a unit that plugged into the dock or something, I feel like BT wouldn't be as responsive/quick as a hardwired plugin.
 

Yzord

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Apr 21, 2010
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I expect a full review.

I'd rather have a unit that plugged into the dock or something, I feel like BT wouldn't be as responsive/quick as a hardwired plugin.

In the early days i always used a BT GPS together with a nokia or something. Works like a charm. In fact, it's better then the iphone GPS.
 

DanielNTX

macrumors 6502
May 2, 2005
271
10
How would you pair the bluetooth GPS to the iPad? I have two bluetooth GPS and the iPad doesn't have the correct bluetooth profile SPP for serial port communications.
 

jaeguyoon

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Apr 20, 2010
129
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How would you pair the bluetooth GPS to the iPad? I have two bluetooth GPS and the iPad doesn't have the correct bluetooth profile SPP for serial port communications.

pretty sure u have to be jailbroken and install something.
 

Chivd

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May 4, 2010
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has anyone been able to use a mifi from verizon or sprint

and use the gps on that device?
 

jfyrfytr25

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Dec 6, 2008
762
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IDK, I just feel like the whole purpose of the iPad is portability. To make our mobile computing life easier by not having to lug around a bunch of bulky hardware. I just wonder at what point are we negating the purpose. All these people getting a personal hotspot for 3/4G now this. Just not for me.

Have fun though hope it suits your needs
 

antiprotest

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Apr 19, 2010
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IDK, I just feel like the whole purpose of the iPad is portability. To make our mobile computing life easier by not having to lug around a bunch of bulky hardware. I just wonder at what point are we negating the purpose. All these people getting a personal hotspot for 3/4G now this. Just not for me.

Have fun though hope it suits your needs

Get a GPS for location services, a MIFI for 3G, a keyboard for typing, a bunch of cases for various occasions, a stand for watching movies, a dock for charging, a camera adapter to load photos, a cleaning cloth, put on an anti-glare screen protector, other accessories for your specific needs, and a big bag to put in all these things, and you will be all set.

Very simple, really.
 
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