What does full access of NFC define as? I know there are apps out there on iPhone that read and write to NFC tags. NFC21Reader, Amiiboss, and I think four years ago Abbott released I think the first iOS app to take advantage of NFC on iPhones, allowing activation and reading of NFC on Freestyle Libre sensors. But maybe there's an angle to development and protocols I'm just not familiar with.
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EU Plans to Hit Apple With Antitrust Charges Over Apple Pay
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really? maybe Apple should just disable NFC for the EU, problem solved
Your insightful and intelligent comment has added tremendously to the discussion. I do not need to ask what school system had a part in your past.
Well, as I am living in the EU, I can tell that Brussels' views about what they consider as a "free" market somewhat differs from the common understanding of the phrase.
Obviously, they do not think that a manufacturer is free to decide what is implemented in the products, and what isn't.
The walled garden is crumbling. Is that sunshine I see on the other side?
Apple should cut ties with the EU and let the people correct their governing bodies. How many times does the EU need to overstep before enough is enough?
Absolutely absurd. The EU acts like every citizen is FORCED to OWN an iPhone and subsequently FORCED to use Apple Pay. Obviously, that’s not true. The EU needs to get back to more important things and stop trolling.
They should go farther: stop selling iPhone anywhere outside US (where the government is in Apple's pocket).
I doubt Apple would allow integration with the wallet. And there is already an API for the NFC hardware (I have a NFC reader app, not sure about write). I don't see any problem with banks creating an app that has NFC payments. But no-one would use it, not unlocking my phone and having to find an app just to make a payment and it would be even more cumbersome on the watch, which is my primary payment method.
So use an android phone, absolutely NO ONE is forcing you to use an iPhone! Don’t like it? Don’t use it. Simple. What a joke.
I don't really see an issue with Apple opining up access to other payment systems through an API they manage. In any case, the ecosystem mentality of years ago is clearly changing. The changes may be somewhat political and arbitrary but they are there nonetheless. In a way, long term, it may be beneficial as it provides a somewhat easier path to move between systems of choice rather than being locked down and being unable to make changes.
I don't expect Apple to be simply a tool provider but I do think they have to rethink fundamentally what it means to build an ecosystem while not "trapping" users except through a superior experience.
I don't expect Apple to be simply a tool provider but I do think they have to rethink fundamentally what it means to build an ecosystem while not "trapping" users except through a superior experience.
That is a really good point. Nobody is forced to use any Apple products and if someone the is using one of them is no longer happy with it they are free to change. I think the Microsoft point is good, they were the only practical OS and all computers, regardless of brand had to use it.
Don’t forget rampant (and growing) protectionism.
I've never once walked around and wished there were other NFC payment options in my phone beyond Apple Pay.
Standardization is a good thing in some instances.
It turns out my suspicious is correct, most people cant tell the difference between Apple Pay, and NFC.
I could see this being an issue if the only way to pay for things is via an NFC-equipped smartphone, but when I buy something from a store that doesn't have an NFC payment method, I use a thing called a credit card, which I store in an accessory called a wallet. Am I missing somewhere here?
The "different browser" is just an illusion of choice.
Being allowed to pick a different UI for a browser is a minor detail of limited significance.
The issue is that you can't use a different engine. Every browser on iOS uses the same undocumented WebKit engine from Apple. This gives Apple an enormous amount of control over the internet. The engines used by Firefox, Chrome, and Edge (I think they're called Gecko and Chromium) might all support some new web standard, say a new Payment API, but if Apple doesn't add it to WebKit, then it won't be supported on iPhones and so developers won't use that new feature.
Really though, the main thing Apple does with WebKit is intentionally cripple the resources it got, to ensure that web apps would never be able to approach the performance of native apps. Which of course bolsters the App Store as developers feel that making a native app is necessary.
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but the worst part about opening it up to everyone is that banks can then force you to use their own proprietary contactless payment app. Not sure if it's still the case but when I had a Pixel 5 last year I was unable to add my Barclays card to Google Pay as Barclays only allowed contactless payments through their own app. A nightmare if you want to regularly switch between different cards from different banks. This fragmentation is a bit like the opposite of their USB-C decision which aims to simplify and standardise.
Having never used any sort of android payment method i’m curious how this would work in real world if apple was forced to open this up.
I assume on androids you can just tap your phone on a reader without opening individual bank apps etc much like Apple Pay?
I assume on androids you can just tap your phone on a reader without opening individual bank apps etc much like Apple Pay?
Exactly, I have all of my cards in the Apple wallet, including store cards, etc and I can and do use whatever card I choose to use. The wallet is just a conduit.
EU is really looking to stifle new technology progress. It would get to the point where no company will want to invest R&D money because the EU will just cause it to be wasted.
EU files anti-trust lawsuit in latest ploy to fine US companies in a money grab
Such a farce. The biggest illegal collusion is the EU itself. A loose government body formed to make it so a bunch of small countries have enough to power to extort money from foreign entities.
Such a farce. The biggest illegal collusion is the EU itself. A loose government body formed to make it so a bunch of small countries have enough to power to extort money from foreign entities.
The banks would love to be able to provide Apple-Pay-like functionality for their cards without paying Apple a cut of their transaction fees. If Apple is forced to open NFC up for payment purposes (it already is usable by apps for other things), banks would most likely start dropping Apple Pay support and force you to use their own apps.