It’s called Lightning. Not Lightening. And I’ve had a few of those ports break on iPhones over the years.
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EU Sets Official Deadline for When iPhone Must Switch to USB-C
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I wish they did that. Because in that case I would buy my next iPhone from the US just to spite those fat, useless beaurocrats whose only purpose in life is to control all the little details of our lives. 👿
However, I don't think that will be the case. They will most probably switch to USB-C everywhere.
I don't particularly love Lightning or USB-C. I'm fine with either of them. I don't mind if Apple makes the switch. What I do mind, though, is a bunch of politicians telling me what I may or may not use. 🤬
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so.. Basically how it is now just with a minimum power requirement.. hardly a change at all. Still doesn't change the fact that these cables are not labeled appropriately with the capability. In a earlier post I made there is a picture with an example of the logo used to identify what type of USB-C cable that is. So what I said earlier (the one you quoted me on) the USB-C cable problem is just as bad if not worse than what HDMI is. I can bet that you cannot identify the types of HDMI you have connected to your devices and I can safely assume majority of consumers are not getting their full monies worth due to this, and this also is the issue with USB-C. Big whoop there is a standard for what charge port my device can use, I paid to be able to "x" charge speed and "x" data speed and now I have to keep tabs on what cable(s) will do that for me.
...because only the EU is doing this and not our newly independent UK government or that beacon of individual freedom, the USA.
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Exactly. Those who think this ushers in a golden age of one cable to rule them all are sadly mistaken. Nothing stops any manufacturer from creating a proprietary cable beyond basic charging as well as for data transfer; the USB spec specifically allows that.
That's MagSafe on MacBook Pros. It has a very specific purpose of protecting a laptop from being yanked off the table when someone trips over the charge cable and doesn't make sense on anything other than a laptop. Anyway, laptops (a) have plenty of room for multiple connectors and (b) don't have the I/O & display support capacity to support more than 2-3 "full function" TB4 ports, so a few dedicated ports for the most common tasks like Magsafe charging or HDMI for data presentation leave the TB4 ports free for high-speed data.
MagSafe on iPhones is a completely different wireless, inductive system. Personally, I could live with plugging in a cable, but long term you could imagine a totally sealed, waterproof wireless-only iPhone. Why Apple chose to use the same name, I don't know - marketing moves in mysterious ways.
If it's not backwards compatible - at least for charging - with USB-C sockets then the USB Implementors Forum would need to be dressed in clown costumes and pelted with rancid herrings. They've gone to a lot of effort to ensure that USB-C is a "smart" connector that can be used for any new protocols that come along.
USB-C was finalised in 2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C)
The "memorandum of understanding" between the EU and the industry to use MicroUSB as a standard connector was made in 2009. (https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_09_1049)
The EU directive allowing time travel to be used in policy making will have been going to been passing in 2135.
I think the EU vs. Apple issue is a storm in a teacup, and is just giving Apple an excuse to do what makes sense anyway. As you say, though, having a standard connector on the power supply rather than a captive cable is what makes the difference.
Certainly the multiple proprietary connectors and captive cables mess "went away" and was already going away when the first EU MOU came out. Maybe the EU helped round up the stragglers - or maybe it was just that connecting phones to sync music etc. with computers was becoming more important and only needing to ship a single cable for charge & data offset the cost of putting a USB socket in the PSU.
The "better" part of the new directive is that they're expanding its range and we might see an end to everything that isn't a mobile phone coming with a captive-cable wall wart and a barrel connector (get the polarity or voltage wrong and let the magic smoke out).
Also, high time to stop bundling minimum-spec chargers with devices - who hasn't got a box of basic USB chargers plus laptops, TVs etc. and even wall sockets and extension leads with USB power? (and, if not, what's so hard about ordering one with your new phone?)
Agree at least cable wise Lightning is the same except for A or C on the other end and the length. Only difference in speed is determined by the device
All he says is they will have to comply with the law. The law says that if it is a wired charging device, it must be via USB-C.
Below is a good breakdown on that interview. Skip to 1 min if you don't want to watch the whole thing.
Will be interesting to see if Apple ships the iPhone 15 with USB-C or if they will wait until last minute to make the transition.
I think it will start with the "Pro" line-up first because that is easily money for them for 1 year being a headlining feature for the pro models.
Even if they all get USB-C the Pros will still have a headlining feature in Thunderbolt 3 for 4.
Apple specifically said they would use this connector for about a decade when they switched from the 30-pin iPod connector in response to accessory makers and customers worried about investing in new charges and docks only to have to change again in a couple years.
I can’t see a change in port being a headline feature. It’s just so… boring and unimportant.
Not when it comes from Apple. I bet they'll brag about the new modern, faster, better, revolutionary charging port, which is a huge leap into the future, and so on. They're so good at it, as we all know. 😁
I doubt it’ll be a chan
I doubt itll be a change in speed. And it won’t make charger any faster either. It’ll just be a change in shape that’ll piss off countless Apple customers. It’s not something to sing the praises of.
how many iPad users are pissed since they "now" have to use USB C cables?
where's the uproar that the Apple TV remote has gone "downhill" with this year's model too?
would you prefer Lighning ports on your MacBook?
where's the uproar that the Apple TV remote has gone "downhill" with this year's model too?
would you prefer Lighning ports on your MacBook?
True. But don't underestimate the marketing department. I'm sure they'll find a way to praise it. 😁
Having read your posts in this thread, for your own sanity you should move out of and not stay in any EU country… you clearly loath it and I daresay it seems rather prevalent over the actual USB-C product or technicals.
Well shucks, I made a spelling mistake on some internet forum - not that it matters to the argument.
However I have never seen a Lightning port fail unless something catastrophic happened - and never seen that either. So: Exactly how did they break and why were you so unlucky to have it happen multiple times while very few ever have it happen at all? More importantly, could you repair it? Did Apple repair or replace it because it was defective and what did they say as the reason?
The robust nature of the Lightning port was always praised, so that information asked above is actually of interest to me.
Thanks in advance!
Devices were out of Apple’s warranty by the time it happened on each account and not worth investing into the out of warranty flat rate service fee. I don’t mind how much praise some have for Lightning, I tend to use my phones with Apple accessories only and the port refused to hold the original charging cables in place because the built-in spring/grabber mechanism stopped working. Which is not unheard of.
In return the usb-c ports I have on plenty devices seem to generally be a bit more wiggly with cables not sitting as secure but at least in my experience none has stopped working in the same way.