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Foxconn Factory Worker Detained Over iPhone 6 Shell Leaks
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Knowing the coditions in these fabrics, I cant blame this poor guy. Ofc they must fire him and improve the security measures but jail time is too harsh in my opinion. I hope that Apple will do the right thing.
Also, its a shame that in the 21st century people, and not machines have to do the asseambely and any related manufacturing tasks. If a robot is capable of doing brain surgery, it sure can assemble an iPhone.
Also, its a shame that in the 21st century people, and not machines have to do the asseambely and any related manufacturing tasks. If a robot is capable of doing brain surgery, it sure can assemble an iPhone.
With currently 1.2 Mio employees, they won't be successful with this.
It's rather interesting that the number of leaks is relatively small compared to the incredibly high number of people working over there. And even more, if you also take the high poverty of those workers into account.
No it's not. He commited theft, which is a crime. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
I'm pretty sure that if I went and stole a Mac pro shell from the factory, I'd get thrown in jail.
I don't feel bad for him, and I don't support him in this situation. He commuted a crime, let him get his punishment.
Also, don't ever be a judge/jury member. I'm pretty sure you would let a thief walk just because "having to Face the shame of his family" is enough punishment.
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Hope the poor bastard doesn't find himself donating his heart and lungs to a wealthy offshore recipient.
Hope the poor bastard doesn't find himself donating his heart and lungs to a wealthy offshore recipient.
I think we both know the rear shell isn't worth $200 per piece. That would be one hell of a shell.
While I personally never have, people take things from work all the time (pens, erasers, paperclips etc.)
Granted, this is a bit different.
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Pretty dickish stance.
Also, China doesn't even follow its own laws.
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While I don't disagree with any particular point you've made, it's still practically moot. Every iPhone release in recent memory (4, 4S, 5, 5S, 6/6+) have all been leaked. Watch was leaked. nMP was leaked. Apple may have doubled down on security nine times by now (if it were encryption it'd be 2^9/512-bit AES
), but we all know it's meaningless.
Like they've caught every other iPhone leak ever?? I don't get how you can trumpet a moral stand here about people leaking things on a site you visit to read about these same leaks. If that isn't compartmentalization, I'm not entirely sure what is.
Jail is just excessive for a first offense. Especially when they pay him so little he feels $900 is worth stealing for.
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No, because it isn't the same thing. Getting high isn't isn't part of the Apple supply chain.
I mean, Jobs used to smoke a LOT, but that wasn't part of his job description. Somehow though if he'd been caught in Utah, I think you'd have been wearing a Free Stevey T-shirt.
That's merely public debt, and nowhere close to the measure one would use when determining the richness or poorness of a country.
China has $22 trillion to the US's $46 trillion.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...l-asia-as-world-wealth-tops-150-trillion.html
Sadly, both countries concentrate that in the hands of few such that it cannot benefit a wide range of people. Go to China and go just a couple miles outside its shiny showcase business centers: It is poor, very poor. This is why Chinese people flock to jobs like Foxconn, and why people like Mr Qiao will risk their freedom to sell photos to websites that will post "this is the next iPhone" story.
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Is stealing parts and selling photos of them part of the supply chain now?
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Probably much easier to select a small group of trusted individuals and subject the manufacturing to stringent surveillance and security. You can't scale that sort of thing to millions of units.
Are you an expert in the field? Who cares if it's a little more expensive. I rather have the money and jobs in our economy.
Foxconn employees are detained everyday..... In their underpaid, overworked slave labor jobs that they have no choice but to take due to china being a third world country.
First off, $900 might seem little to you but to those workers that is about 2 months salary. Let's look at it in relative terms. The median household income in California is $61,632. 2 months salary is ~$10,000. That's a good chunk of money. Especially to a factory worker.
What do you think about insider trading ? Do you think that someone who leaks stock tips that could allow their friend to make millions of dollars deserves only a slap on the wrist ?
Leaking IP is leaking IP, it's a very serious charge.
If by "expert in the field" you mean have I read up on the subject, and am I reasonably intelligent person, yes.
If you were to actually do some research, instead of living in the "****** yeah! 'Merika! mindset, you would know that the reason most companies stopped manufacturing things like iPhones in the US is not really purely about labor costs.
American labor probably wouldn't add that much incremental cost to the devices. The problem comes from manufacturers who are not nimble or flexible enough to turn on a dime, and ramp up and down at the same pace as Asian companies.
Is American labor more expensive? Yes. But Apple could recover that for less than $30-$40 a unit, and their customers would lap it up. The real issue is that it would take much, much longer to go from the lab to the store with their product.
Qiao is now in a world of hurt. In China his punishment will probably be totally out of proportion to his crime.
It would be nice if Apple used their influence to ensure relatively lenient punishment - this being China, "relatively lenient" would be loss of his job and community service, maybe prison time if he shows no remorse.
Many American iPhone users will be buying cases that are available at the time of the iPhone release because of people like Qiao, so we do benefit from his rather petty crime.
It would be nice if Apple used their influence to ensure relatively lenient punishment - this being China, "relatively lenient" would be loss of his job and community service, maybe prison time if he shows no remorse.
Many American iPhone users will be buying cases that are available at the time of the iPhone release because of people like Qiao, so we do benefit from his rather petty crime.
Poor guy. I certainly don't feel bad for Apple in this case since while they definitely value product secrecy, they should also value the humans that make their products. Yes, of course shareholders come first but that doesn't make sweatshops any more ethical.
He still ended up making less than he should have for months of work, and now unfortunately he's going to pay for his temporary escape from near slavery
He still ended up making less than he should have for months of work, and now unfortunately he's going to pay for his temporary escape from near slavery
He stole something, and was paid $960 for the goods. Bizarrely, Wikipedia states that in California law "Grand theft is committed when the value of stolen property exceeds $950". So in California this would be Grand theft and a felony. Again according to Wikipedia, in some states of the USA repeated theft can lead to a life sentence.
With salaries and cost of living so much lower in China, $960 is about two monthly wages, which is probably equivalent to $10,000 in California. You won't get away lightly for stealing $10,000 in the USA.