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Intelligence Program Gives US Government Direct Access to Customer Data on Apple Servers [Update: Apple Denies]
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Why are you asking me for?
You're the one who's bothered "just the day after this news came out, and no one seems to care".
I was bothered by the fact that no one is talking about it anymore. If no one talks about it, that means everyone will forget about it just like ever other scandal. There is probably some horse that died from tropical storm Andrea that people care more about and will talk about longer.
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People just don't care, that bothers me.
It's not that people don't care, it more likely they have nothing they can do about it. The domestic spying is at its heart a partnership between the government and the telecom companies. For it to stop you need either one of those two to stop cooperating (ha-ha -- fat chance), or for everyone to simultaneously stop using services that make them venerable.
With the current ogilopy of the telecom industry, it isn't possible to change to a carrier who is not involved in this. All the big players are cooperating it appears (regardless of how they want to mince words in their public statements), and all the little guys are either reselling access to the big guys or their own network must connect to the big guys at some point along the line. So the only way to not have your phone conversations tapped is to pretty much stop using a phone -- and you can imagine how well that works in 21st century life.
The alternative is encryption. The issue there is mail clients, etc are not made with encryption built-in, and getting it working requires both you and your recipient be set up to send/receive encrypted mail. I can tell you from professional experience most people have trouble using their email program to send plain text mail. Someone on Slashdot pointed out that Google has the resources to employ encryption in its email system in a way that would be quite transparent to the user. But remember that Google's main purpose for even running an email system to start with is for them to be allowed to data-mine all your email for advertising reasons. They can't do that if it's encrypted before it enters their servers.
Also, for all the "Steve wouldn't have let this happen" remarks you see on Macrumors threads, did you see how late Apple joined the PRISM program? Did you notice it wasn't until after Job's death?
Why would Apple do this.. ?
I would actually also ague in the privacy space here, this one yet another reason not to use real info ..... in case it does go "under-the radar"
Weather true, or not, i don't care, since my data provided to Apple is not even real... It's all fake,,, I only add credit card and remove it after purchasing...
The only way to go.....
I just don't get why people favour connivence vs security..... Then scream ot in terror, when other can have access to stuff, they didn't want to...
If you don't want suspicious people gaining access, don't make it public (on the internet) period....
I would actually also ague in the privacy space here, this one yet another reason not to use real info ..... in case it does go "under-the radar"
Weather true, or not, i don't care, since my data provided to Apple is not even real... It's all fake,,, I only add credit card and remove it after purchasing...
The only way to go.....
I just don't get why people favour connivence vs security..... Then scream ot in terror, when other can have access to stuff, they didn't want to...
If you don't want suspicious people gaining access, don't make it public (on the internet) period....
No wonder why the US Government was afraid of allowing Hawei into the US market ... they know all about backdoors and illegal collection of information! What hypocrisy...
if a massive haystack of our data is being collected
then why doesn't everybody run random traffic consumption programs, apps, widgets?
that would skew the stolen data such that just a few percent of it is junk, and it wouldn't be that easy to say which few percent is junk. It would give us some plausible deniability back. (eg. "I didn't visit jailbrea|<.me last tuesday on my iPhone 7, it could have been my random traffic algorithm?")
of course we'd all need a plethora of random traffic algorithms, just using a single source of random browsing such as TrackMeNot would be asking for trouble, as the NSA are wonderfully professional in everything they do, and several years ahead in their planning. I suppose you don't mind paying for all of this?!
So, please Write Your Own apple script, iPhone, OSX 'fake traffic generators' - (from the timing of Apple's data-backdoor - it seems to be something that Steve would have approved of?)
then why doesn't everybody run random traffic consumption programs, apps, widgets?
that would skew the stolen data such that just a few percent of it is junk, and it wouldn't be that easy to say which few percent is junk. It would give us some plausible deniability back. (eg. "I didn't visit jailbrea|<.me last tuesday on my iPhone 7, it could have been my random traffic algorithm?")
of course we'd all need a plethora of random traffic algorithms, just using a single source of random browsing such as TrackMeNot would be asking for trouble, as the NSA are wonderfully professional in everything they do, and several years ahead in their planning. I suppose you don't mind paying for all of this?!
So, please Write Your Own apple script, iPhone, OSX 'fake traffic generators' - (from the timing of Apple's data-backdoor - it seems to be something that Steve would have approved of?)
Not sure what you mean. It's still the top story on every news page and on every cable news show. It's clogged my Twitter and RSS feeds too. We've known these new details for a few days and we already know more will come out and some of the initial information was wrong. This isn't going away and is still playing out.
I'm not even sure the NSA care that much about these policy's - having too many innocent people doesn't necessarily help them catch bad guys.
The whistleblower, Edward Snowden, just 29, speaks...
Also, in another short piece, he answers some questions:
Also, in another short piece, he answers some questions:
Ironic that we're increasingly volunteering to record our thoughts, feelings, actions, relationships, allegiances, and affiliations via Facebook, twitter, Mac Rumors, et al.
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I'm so happy to hear that carte blanche access to user data only applies to we Apple customers outside the United States. Did anybody check if the FBI has similar access for locals?
It is of course the principle, that matters - shouldn't be doing this to anybody, US citizen or not.
As access to data is infinitely easier now, it's even MORE important that due process and transparency applies - suspicion, warrant, then access to data. Oversight is MORE important now, not less important.
Law enforcement is forever bleating 'modern communications make it harder and we need more power', when the fact is, it makes it infinitely easier, but politicians are so ignorant of technology, and the general public ignorant and frightened -- unethical powers are granted without question.
We need more tech savvy politicians. Not staffers, politicians. Silicon Valley, step up. And not those weasels that trade our data for immunity from prosecution for their company for handing it over, either. That's what tech lobbyists do - trade data for immunity. Why do you think Google put a former CEO on the job?
Thanks to MacRumors and the media for airing this particular dirty laundry. Public pressure seems to be the only way to get politicians to do the right thing.
It is of course the principle, that matters - shouldn't be doing this to anybody, US citizen or not.
As access to data is infinitely easier now, it's even MORE important that due process and transparency applies - suspicion, warrant, then access to data. Oversight is MORE important now, not less important.
Law enforcement is forever bleating 'modern communications make it harder and we need more power', when the fact is, it makes it infinitely easier, but politicians are so ignorant of technology, and the general public ignorant and frightened -- unethical powers are granted without question.
We need more tech savvy politicians. Not staffers, politicians. Silicon Valley, step up. And not those weasels that trade our data for immunity from prosecution for their company for handing it over, either. That's what tech lobbyists do - trade data for immunity. Why do you think Google put a former CEO on the job?
Thanks to MacRumors and the media for airing this particular dirty laundry. Public pressure seems to be the only way to get politicians to do the right thing.
Why would Apple do this.. ?
I would actually also ague in the privacy space here, this one yet another reason not to use real info ..... in case it does go "under-the radar"
Weather true, or not, i don't care, since my data provided to Apple is not even real... It's all fake,,, I only add credit card and remove it after purchasing...
The only way to go.....
I just don't get why people favor connivence vs security..... Then scream ot in terror, when other can have access to stuff, they didn't want to...
If you don't want suspicious people gaining access, don't make it public (on the internet) period....
Your CC is stored in a database even if you take it out after using it. When you use your CC the data about the card is sent to a bank which stores the info, and waits for it to be confirmed. If you think the bank is going to erase the data after the total transaction is over, you are mistaken. The same with Apple, your info is stored for so x time.
If you want to buy and still unknown somewhat, use gift cards. But then again even those can be tracked. :/
Hugh
<EDIT> I've been reading on CNet that they are following the FBI request Google, Facebook and some others that I don't remember, to not to fight the fact they could get access to the records with out a court order. I don't know the status Congress vote status, I think it passed in the Senate. Food for thought. :/
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NSA only targets "foreigners" likewise GCHQ but they share intelligence.Ipso facto both the U.S. and the rest of the world are surveilled.If it wasn't so grotesque you could almost admire their balls.
Then all of you should just be using Apple's Messages app: Two years later, DEA learns the government can’t break into Apple’s iMessage.
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The video is fascinating. While it seems too early in this saga to say much of anything with certainty, many of history's heroes have worn grey hats...
I think Edward himself is fascinating. He seems like a very bright and articulate young man that's at ease with himself. He seems like a real American with good moral character and a good understanding of the United States Constitution.
Pfft! What's that going to accomplish? If the government really cared what we thought this wouldn't be happening to start with.
Everyone will go protest until its time to go to work.
Then we'll all scatter back to our offices and fire up our email clients and pick up out phones as we're required to do to get work done.