iOS 17: Why do the new Home lock screen widgets require passcode / FaceID ?!

[Squillace]

This doesn't make any sense. Unless I'm missing something... Am I ?

For ages I've been using the Home controls on the lock screen trough the Control Center without having to unlock my phone. Since iOS 16 I've also been able to create widgets pointing to shortcuts to control my HomeKit devices from the lock screen without having to unlock my phone.

This is still true on iOS 17.

BUT!

The new live widgets for Home don't allow that. Previously the two top widgets on my screen were two shortcuts I made: one to turn off all the lights, and one to switch on/off my cooling fan. I replaced them with "real" live Home widgets to control those smart devices, but to turn on a light or control a fan or whatever I need to unlock my phone. Where's the consistency and logic about that?

Again, am I missing something?

 

[manhattanmania]

Im also having this issue! Not in control center, but standby mode. The home widgets want me to unlock, completely defeating the purpose of standby mode. I have access home controls while locked enabled.

 

[matrix07]

Im also having this issue! Not in control center, but standby mode. The home widgets want me to unlock, completely defeating the purpose of standby mode. I have access home controls while locked enabled.

Shouldn’t it scan your face right there?

 

[Squillace]

Shouldn’t it scan your face right there?

It does.

But that doesn't make any sense. Fundamentally we can control the Home accessories via the control center and via shortcuts WHITOUT having to unlock the phone. So, the need to unlock on the lock Home Screen widgets and on Standby mode (as Manhattanmaia correctly said) is a nonsense.

 

[FrancoisC]

Did you contact apple/send a bug report?

 

[Squillace]

Did you contact apple/send a bug report?

I haven't because I don't know if I'm having a bug or if this is an actual feature and it's the proper behavior Apple wants.
That's why I posted here. I really doubt I'm the only one using Home widgets on the Lock Screen......

 

[manhattanmania]

It does.

But that doesn't make any sense. Fundamentally we can control the Home accessories via the control center and via shortcuts WHITOUT having to unlock the phone. So, the need to unlock on the lock Home Screen widgets and on Standby mode (as Manhattanmaia correctly said) is a nonsense.

Correct. But also, FaceID is not unlocking reliably AT ALL bc the phone is horizontal, so thats not a solve.

 

[MegaBlue]

If I enable Home Control and “Today View and Search” then things like the HomeKit widgets work without unlocking.

 

[FrancoisC]

I haven't because I don't know if I'm having a bug or if this is an actual feature and it's the proper behavior Apple wants.
That's why I posted here. I really doubt I'm the only one using Home widgets on the Lock Screen......

True! But (I just thought of that) by writing to them, if its expected behaviour they will tell you it is!