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Tom71

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HI Guys,

just got an iPad (for my wife) and like it so far. In fact, of course, I play most of the time with it ;)

But however, one thing I don't like is the screen resolution. I wonder why nobody wrote about this. With all hires screens and such, the pixelation of the iPad is really a bit retro.

Nobody else noticed? Love it otherwise though, esp. the battery life.

Tom
 

p-rice

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Apr 18, 2010
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Screen resolution does not bother me one bit. In fact the quality looks stunning to me and it looks a lot better than my MacBook that's for sure.
 

Star56

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Sep 30, 2007
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HI Guys,

just got an iPad (for my wife) and like it so far. In fact, of course, I play most of the time with it ;)

But however, one thing I don't like is the screen resolution. I wonder why nobody wrote about this. With all hires screens and such, the pixelation of the iPad is really a bit retro.

Nobody else noticed? Love it otherwise though, esp. the battery life.

Tom

The screen has received rave reviews from almost everyone. What are you talking about? Pixelization?
 

pondie84

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Jan 28, 2008
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I've noticed no pixelation other than in resized iPhone apps... but I'm not as fussy as a lot of people are.

In what way is the pixelation effecting your use of the device?
 

sheppy1

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Sep 8, 2008
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I would also like to know where you are getting pixelation, my iPad screen looks absolutely stunning, only pixelation I've seen is when you take a native iPhone app and maximize it to fit the iPad screen
 

Tom71

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Apr 27, 2010
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Oh OK. Odd. you must all have screens with much higher resolution ;)

Well maybe I'm too fuzzy. See, for instance you go to moblle me website or even google maps or anywhere where you have small fonts, you can see they are rendered blurry. It's because of the resolution which is quite poor.

iPad DPI = 130, iPhone DPI = 160 (and the iPhone has the lowest DPI for any recent smartphone, the new one will most likely double that). The DPI is about the same as my Hires 15in 2010 MBP but obviously that's held at more distance to the eyes.

So I'm surprised that nobody else is bothered by this. I do like the screen itself, the colors and the viewing angle, but I just feel the resolution could be much better.
 

Tom71

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Apr 27, 2010
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I've noticed no pixelation other than in resized iPhone apps... but I'm not as fussy as a lot of people are.

In what way is the pixelation effecting your use of the device?
It restricts the font size, and therefore amount of information being able to display on the screen.
 

Axl Rose

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Oct 16, 2007
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ya, the res kinda seem dissapointin, i was hoping for maybe 1600, 1200, since your holding it close to your eyes
 

tuxing

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May 21, 2010
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I don't understand how people tell "the screen looks stunning". The fonts look very ugly and blurry in portrait mode, the way Steve wanted us to hold it.
For iPhone the low resolution was a boon as screen size was small. But for iPad it's a portrait killer for reading. Guess Steve wanted a low res to blow up iphoneapps and also he wants us to upgrade to iPad 2nd.

Screen does stun you at night at fullbrightness if lights are off.:D
 

brentsg

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Oct 15, 2008
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Well maybe I'm too fuzzy. See, for instance you go to moblle me website or even google maps or anywhere where you have small fonts, you can see they are rendered blurry. It's because of the resolution which is quite poor.

So then by your assessment the 17" Macbook Pros must be completely awful.
 

Tom71

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Apr 27, 2010
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So then by your assessment the 17" Macbook Pros must be completely awful.
No because its 133 DPI and you probably hold it farther away than an iPad. But we're not talking about the 17in MBP.

I know that criticism to Apple products doesn't bode well in the MacRumors Forums.

Anyway it's a let down on a device which is otherwise quite good.
 

hazmatzak

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Apr 29, 2008
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See, for instance you go to moblle me website or even google maps or anywhere where you have small fonts, you can see they are rendered blurry. It's because of the resolution which is quite poor.

It's a little more complicated than that. By default, in portrait mode, the browser will render the page as if the screen/window is 980 pixels wide. This is for maximum compatibility with web pages (column layouts, banner ads, navigation tabs, etc.) Then to actually fit on screen, it takes this rendering and shrinks it to 768 pixels wide. That's why text is fuzzier. (The same pages viewed landscape are slightly expanded to 1024 pixels wide.)

Pages can declare that they can be rendered at a narrower width, possibly getting rendered pixel-for-pixel, making the text as good as possible (with the pros and cons of font smoothing).

So the fuzziness is not a direct consequence of the resolution, but a compound effect of the desired function: web page fidelity and no horizontal scrolling. But yes, if the pixel dimensions were higher, it would be better all around. In fact, if the screen was 1920x1440, you could display 1080p pixel-for-pixel, and people would have to stop complaining about it "not being HD". But I imagine such screens will not be affordable for a while.
 

colmaclean

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Jan 6, 2004
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I guess they're holding back to give you another excuse to upgrade next year.

Being a sucker, I must admit to being quite excited about the mooted res increase on the next iPhone (even though I've got a perfectly good 3GS).
 

Tom71

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Apr 27, 2010
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I guess they're holding back to give you another excuse to upgrade next year.

Being a sucker, I must admit to being quite excited about the mooted res increase on the next iPhone (even though I've got a perfectly good 3GS).
I wouldn't mind either :) One iPad per familiy is not enough anyway.
 

spammerhamster

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Feb 5, 2010
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wouldn't a higher resolution also means a decline in usage time? More pixels to feed.

Could very well be a costeffictive/powereffective decision. If this density allows the magical numbers 10 and 499, it'd be a great strategic decision.

(and tbh, I don't really mind. the ipad screen already looks better than all my laptops/netbooks/tfts and basically all the screens i've seen)
 

brentsg

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Oct 15, 2008
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No because its 133 DPI and you probably hold it farther away than an iPad. But we're not talking about the 17in MBP.

I know that criticism to Apple products doesn't bode well in the MacRumors Forums.

Anyway it's a let down on a device which is otherwise quite good.

I could care less if you criticize Apple products.

I'm making a comparison. The MBP 17's resolution is essentially the same as the iPad in terms of pixel pitch.

You still need the 17" MBP right in front of you, if you plan to type on it and interact with it. It's not a desktop display that's 2-3' away. I guess everyone is different, but I don't believe I use my iPad any closer to my eyes than I do my MBP.
 

martynmc7

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Dec 30, 2008
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I could care less

No, you couldn't care less, if you could care less then it's meaningless because all you're telling us is that you do care, which I presume is the opposite of what is intended!

Sorry, that misuse really grinds me! ;)
 

macbwizard

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May 23, 2005
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I remember back in the 90s and early 2000s using 14/15 inch CRTs that were at 1024x768 without any complaints. The iPad is what, 9.8 inches? That pixel density is way more than adequate.
 

Zazoh

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Jan 4, 2009
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I use my MB and iPad at same distance. No issues. I was an audiophile years back and would obsess over sound nuances, So, I get the concerns. This is one area where ignorance is bliss. To this dummy, all apps, except iPhone x2 are good with me.

I've since given up my audiophile ways and can now even enjoy MP3s on my iPhone. ;-).
 

kurzz

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May 18, 2007
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No, you couldn't care less, if you could care less then it's meaningless because all you're telling us is that you do care, which I presume is the opposite of what is intended!

Sorry, that misuse really grinds me! ;)

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HiRez

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Jan 6, 2004
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It's definitely on the low side, although the other aspects of the screen look great (backlight, viewing angles, saturation, etc). It bothers me the most in iBooks, I like to use a little smaller font than default and the screen's resolution is too low to do effective antialiasing, the text looks jaggy. It's not a deal-killer, but it's noticeable. 1600x1200 would be perfect but 1280x960 would be a big improvement.
 

brentsg

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Oct 15, 2008
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I second that.

Good God get a ****ing life.

Oh no I screwed up you and your buddies favorite saying or something. You should probably point it out and make a deal of it so a couple of lackeys can come along and second, third it.

I think tools that feel the need to correct everyone's grammar and language are every bit as annoying.
 

pondie84

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Jan 28, 2008
592
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I think tools that feel the need to correct everyone's grammar and language are every bit as annoying.

You obviously haven't had the pleasure of seeing a particular member who gets a bee in her/his bonnet over people who use the phrase 'the best thing since sliced bread'. :p
 
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