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iPhone 12 Pro Iphone 13 pwm flicker?
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Do you have a source that says that the LTPO displays are produced form BOE? In the rumors i have only read about Samsung Display. When its trully made from BOE then is the hope that i could also have a high pwm frequenz like the displays on the Honor Magic 3 Series that have a OLED Display from BOE.
How would anyone know? No one has access to a device yet.
Or an hour 🤣 when the headache is actually reality of bank account with a chunk of change missing from it.
I will be reporting back on the iphone 13 Mini and Pro. I will know within an hour of usage if there's low PWM (so likely no display changes) as I will feel eye strain which will likely turn into a migraine.
The feeling starts with my eyes darting around the screen as clearly I'm picking up the display modulating/flashing. This will result in the sides of my eyes feeling strained/tired and gritty. This triggers my brain to send out the alert something is wrong by giving me a headache which can last for days. Last years Pro Max and standard 12 ruined me for two days!
From the X through to the 12 Series it's been an issue for me sadly. Even the standard 11 caused some strain (possibly caused by dithering). I don't have alot of hope left but I have to try once more as I desperately need a new phone to retire my 7 Plus and I would like to stick with iOS ideally. I have no interest in the SE 2020 (low resolution, small battery), so if the 13 series is a bust I will start exploring the Android options. And I said this for a few years now........?
The feeling starts with my eyes darting around the screen as clearly I'm picking up the display modulating/flashing. This will result in the sides of my eyes feeling strained/tired and gritty. This triggers my brain to send out the alert something is wrong by giving me a headache which can last for days. Last years Pro Max and standard 12 ruined me for two days!
From the X through to the 12 Series it's been an issue for me sadly. Even the standard 11 caused some strain (possibly caused by dithering). I don't have alot of hope left but I have to try once more as I desperately need a new phone to retire my 7 Plus and I would like to stick with iOS ideally. I have no interest in the SE 2020 (low resolution, small battery), so if the 13 series is a bust I will start exploring the Android options. And I said this for a few years now........?
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We are all waiting to pull the trigger. Still with my 11. I hope PWM to not only be solved on pro models with the 120hz screen….. those pro models are literally bricks with their weight. Macrumors all these years should have done at least an article for all of us…..
OP opened the thread so he can be the first one to open this thread lol. Whatever floats your boat, OP, whatever floats your boat...
There should be a separate board for these PWM threads. I set three threads to "ignore" this morning, and now there are three new threads. Skimming the first three, it seemed like it was a small group of posters doing all the posting to keep them near the top. Time to hit the old ignore button some more...
I am one who suffers from PWM and while I am vested in the topic, you are absolutely right. There are like 8 threads that could be merged into one. It's out of hand.
The good part about that is that it brings more attention to the issue, which ? may no longer be an issue this generation.
Way too many threads happening:
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Iphone 13 pwm flicker?
Will the fact its ltpo and boe producing it maybe mean pwm may be better?
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Eye-strain while using iPhone X and up
Hello all, I thought I'd post here about an issue I've been having and see if anyone else is experiencing the same thing. When I'm using the phone my eyes feel strained, like, they're trying to focus on the screen. Also, I've noticed that when I look away from my phone at something else, my...
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We might iust be in luck maybe no pwm on iphone 13 pro
Watch 9:24 Fingers crossed
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Anyone with PWM issues getting the iPhone 13?
I get really bad headaches, nausea and dizziness using OLED screens due to pwm so I’m stuck with the iPhone 11. Interested whether anyone else with the same issue is going to try out the 13?
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iPhone 13 Pro: Screen PWM flicker at ALL brightness
1. iPhone 13 Pro is using 480hz PWM dimming at all brightness. 2. In iPhone 12 series, we can set a high brighness using DC dimming, and then use Reduce White Point to stimulate brightness adjust to avoid PWM flicker. But with 13 pro, there's no DC dimming at all. I think eye strain on iPhone...
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This is why I will not buy iPhone 12: OLED = PWM
I just hate how Apple is not understanding How serious is the argument here. They still use OLED displays that use PWM to modulate brigtness, and so they flicker! 30/40% OLED Smartphone Owner's are claiming infact, eyestrain, headhace, nausea, dizziness, motion sickness, that is mainly caused by...
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Iphone 13 pwm flicker?
Will the fact its ltpo and boe producing it maybe mean pwm may be better?Eye-strain while using iPhone X and up
Hello all, I thought I'd post here about an issue I've been having and see if anyone else is experiencing the same thing. When I'm using the phone my eyes feel strained, like, they're trying to focus on the screen. Also, I've noticed that when I look away from my phone at something else, my...We might iust be in luck maybe no pwm on iphone 13 pro
Watch 9:24 Fingers crossedAnyone with PWM issues getting the iPhone 13?
I get really bad headaches, nausea and dizziness using OLED screens due to pwm so I’m stuck with the iPhone 11. Interested whether anyone else with the same issue is going to try out the 13?iPhone 13 Pro: Screen PWM flicker at ALL brightness
1. iPhone 13 Pro is using 480hz PWM dimming at all brightness. 2. In iPhone 12 series, we can set a high brighness using DC dimming, and then use Reduce White Point to stimulate brightness adjust to avoid PWM flicker. But with 13 pro, there's no DC dimming at all. I think eye strain on iPhone...This is why I will not buy iPhone 12: OLED = PWM
I just hate how Apple is not understanding How serious is the argument here. They still use OLED displays that use PWM to modulate brigtness, and so they flicker! 30/40% OLED Smartphone Owner's are claiming infact, eyestrain, headhace, nausea, dizziness, motion sickness, that is mainly caused by...
iPhone 12:
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mmm i think compared the iphone 12 this has less flickeriPhone 12:
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Too bad the regular 12 is compared to the 13 pro....
I'd like to see a comparison to the regular 13- since we know the 13 Pro likely does have a better screen with a higher flicker frequency.Thank you for the video. I see a huge difference in flicker compared to the iPhone 12. Very promising
So is it still the iPhone 11 and 2020SE with zero flicker? iPhone 10, 12, 13 are still trash right?