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titrau

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Everybody know that ....

and 9-10-11-12 are same too :D

but 1 things not same =

old and new

people love something new just like car
same model same speed same color but new car and people still want it
 

spooky23

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I upgraded from a 6s+ to a 8+ and sure, it's just an evolution of the same phone but the UX is better because it's faster, because of the battery life and also the 256Gb. Is it the same form factor? An upgraded version of the previous version(s) with the usual over powered upgrades to the cpu? Yes. Does it do everything I need it to do? Yes. Then my money is well spent. Unless I need to hold something that is a mixture of cosmetic changes along with some brand new tech. My Twitter feed or blogging via Squarespace is going to be the same thing for me, be it on a 8 or had I gone for an X.

Steve is right but it doesn't necessarily matter. Had I bought an X this year it would simply have been because it's the latest version and not because I particularly required OLED. This time next year, I'll make the jump if the X comes in a Plus sized version. I think the choice is still great and what Apple have done is a requirement for them to step up to another level again. But let's not pretend that smartphone and the desire for massive changes hasn't peaked. It's slowly going to come down to what it looks like not what it can do. If it hasn't already.
 

Bethanie21

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I upgraded from a 6s+ to a 8+ and sure, it's just an evolution of the same phone but the UX is better because it's faster, because of the battery life and also the 256Gb. Is it the same form factor? An upgraded version of the previous version(s) with the usual over powered upgrades to the cpu? Yes. Does it do everything I need it to do? Yes. Then my money is well spent. Unless I need to hold something that is a mixture of cosmetic changes along with some brand new tech. My Twitter feed or blogging via Squarespace is going to be the same thing for me, be it on a 8 or had I gone for an X.

Steve is right but it doesn't necessarily matter. Had I bought an X this year it would simply have been because it's the latest version and not because I particularly required OLED. This time next year, I'll make the jump if the X comes in a Plus sized version. I think the choice is still great and what Apple have done is a requirement for them to step up to another level again. But let's not pretend that smartphone and the desire for massive changes hasn't peaked. It's slowly going to come down to what it looks like not what it can do. If it hasn't already.

Hear, hear! ;):D very well said.
 

eyoungren

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…but the UX is better because it's faster…
Are you saying it comes down to iOS 11? Or are you saying the UX is better because iOS 11 is running on your 8+?

If it's just iOS 11 and you feel it's just an evolution of the same phone, would not running iOS 11 on your old 6s+ have the same effect?

I'm guessing though that you mean it's better because of the phone and iOS 11 even though the 8+ is just an evolution of the same phone.
 

balaplus

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Ultimately, if the X sells very well, Apple can claim that 8 didn't do well because of X.

If that is not the case, it will be clear that people don't want to pay more..... for more of the same!
 

Hoosier317

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My hope is that this is the last year of the form factor found in the iPhone 8 and 8+. They look outdated and bulky when compared to the X. Hopefully Apple will put all of their energy towards focusing on the new form factor.
 

montanaco

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Have to agree with him on the 5C comment, love that phone.

But disagree about the X, I think its enticing. Maybe not enticing as a tesla, but hey I'm still really excited for it.
 

spooky23

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Are you saying it comes down to iOS 11? Or are you saying the UX is better because iOS 11 is running on your 8+?

If it's just iOS 11 and you feel it's just an evolution of the same phone, would not running iOS 11 on your old 6s+ have the same effect?

I'm guessing though that you mean it's better because of the phone and iOS 11 even though the 8+ is just an evolution of the same phone.


Yeah, sorry, that wasn't clear. Because everything is faster, camera tech improved and so on. It's incremental and I guess for me, I only upgrade every 2 years so I feel the difference even more. Although if I do opt for an X+ next year (if it happens) it will be interesting to see how much of a leap it feels in comparison to what I've just done upgrading to an 8+.
 
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joeblow7777

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So if the 8 is the same as the 6 and 7, but the 8 also has the same internals as the X, does that mean that the X is just an iPhone 6??
 
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maflynn

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I've felt this way all along, 6 to 8 each has just minor improvements. That doesn't make them bad phones, just that there's less reason to upgrade as quickly.

Since I'm on the SE, I think 7 or 8 would make a nice jump up, though I'm not looking to buy the 7 or 8
 
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balaplus

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not sure why they even came out with the 8. Perhaps to entice people to spend more and get the x.
If the strength of ios plays a major role in dissuading people from switching, why not sell a few more million 8s at a higher margin (literally no development cost for 8) ?
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That doesn't make them bad phones, just that there's less reason to upgrade as quickly
Hmm.. Most users would upgrade every two years (or less) due to expiration of contract or battery woes or boredom - there is regular sales to be had, no doubt about that...
 

myscrnnm

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I mean, he's not wrong. The 6, 7, and 8 all share the same form factor, overall dimensions, screen size, screen resolution, and can all run practically the same operating system. From a user experience standpoint they are the same phone for day to day use. That's also the reason I haven't upgraded my iPhone since the 6 Plus. I can see where he's coming from regarding the X, but I will be getting that on launch day simply because I made the mistake of getting a 16GB iPhone last time, plus I really like how it looks.
 
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maflynn

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Hmm.. Most users would upgrade every two years (or less) due to expiration of contract or battery woes or boredom - there is regular sales to be had, no doubt about that...
I don't know about that anymore.

I'm not disagreeing, but we see so many people here upgrading annually. The very successful IUP program by apple which gives people the ability to update annually, and many carriers have a similar program.
 

Jimmy James

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Oct 26, 2008
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Everything is fundamentally the same now. Whether I have a 6, an X, or a Samsung. I'm surfing the same sites, listening to the same music, and making the same calls. Everyone is looking too hard for differentiation. We're talking about very small degrees of change.
 

balaplus

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Amazing isn't it? Planet's most valuable companies are all tech (apple, Amazon, alphabet..). Not pharma, not energy or FMCG..
Happy to pay to dollar but is it that unreasonable to demand innovation consistently?
 
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