iPhone in Magazine?

[TMA]

Thanks for the pictures Ian That mock up might look ok if it didn't have that huge 'wheel' stuck in the middle. But I think if Apple did ever decide to release an 'iPhone' years in the future, it would look stunning.

As for the WH Smith search - You would think that with the technology that's available they would tie in there search system with their entire product database, not just online products (which seem to be limited) Oh well. I'll have to check out this magazine when i'm next in Nottingham - gratuitous 'iCandy' shots = Mac Porn! Weeeeeeee!

 

[cubist]

Originally posted by TMA
Thanks for the pictures Ian That mock up might look ok if it didn't have that huge 'wheel' stuck in the middle.

It looks exactly like a T610 with that "wheel" plastered atop the joystick.

 

[Ugg]

Why would Apple want to reinvent the wheel? Especially now that Nokia, Ericcson and Motorola are all projecting lower profits.

It would make perfect sense for them to connect with one of the manufacturers and say, "we want an apple branded phone" Knowing as they do the phenomenal brand loyalty amongst apple users I'm sure they would jump all over it. Apple gets its name on the phone, it can interract with all appropriate Mac applications, and the manf. gets to sell more phones while apple has one more reason to say, hey switch to a mac and you can buy this cool phone too. This way there is little or no risk to Apple.

I think it's real and it's only time before other computer makers jump on the same bandwagon. The mobile phone is no longer just a phone, it can be a PDA, a camera, file storage, etc. It plays perfectly into Apple's desire to create a digital hub.

 

[awinn233]

Nice pics! Wish they were real!

 

[MrMacMan]

Those look NICE, if they were real I would buy in a SECOND, damn that looks NICE.

 

[bennetsaysargh]

now that is an iPhone! too bad it won't happen

 

[macphisto]

Originally posted by cubist
It looks exactly like a T610 with that "wheel" plastered atop the joystick.

My sentiments exactly, head on over to http://www.sonyericsson.com/ for a gander of the T610. In fact to save you the extra click here is the t610 in the flesh,...or plastic.

It is a nice phone though, I would be one in an instant or two.

 

[mcl]

Originally posted by macphisto
My sentiments exactly, head on over to http://www.sonyericsson.com/ for a gander of the T610. In fact to save you the extra click here is the t610 in the flesh,...or plastic.

It is a nice phone though, I would be one in an instant or two.

The T610's been recalled .

 

[AndrewMT]

Why don't they put pop out keyboards on these phones? Once the keyboard pops out from a slot on the right side, the phones screen could change orientation. You need a keyboard if you seriously want to you messaging, aim, web browsing, and e-mail. Take a clue from the sidekick and get a keyboard!

Why couldn't this be an Apple phone? If they are working with Sony Erriccson, the phone would have the SE logo at the bottom and have similar features as other SE phones.

 

[mproud]

Apple and Device Interfaces

What people seem forget when trying to make up a pretend Apple device is that they mock the Aqua GUI way too much.

Apple is very picky - a purist and total control freak, as evidenced by its return from computer licensing, its continual abandonment of old technology and adoption of new ones, Apple Stores, and leaving of MWNY. They want to control every aspect and make the Macintosh a truly unique and rich experience.

So a quick Q and A:
Apple will not rip off the Aqua scheme for any smaller devices because it would:

a) Probably not emulate every aspect of the OS on the new device

b) Not clearly identify the differences between the two devices

c) Confuse users in the experience

d) Distract users in the original purpose and context of the device


And the answer is...

All of the above!

Apple will not take something they already have and apply it to a completely different project to be done way poorly. Apple is not that kind of company.

You will not see Apple put Aqua on another device, or anything that even REMOTELY looks like Aqua unless Apple first decides Aqua is dead on Mac OS X, and even then, Apple will probably find some better thing to do by that point.


However, one thing Apple may copy (as they currently do) is the general style of the product (i.e. the white/opaqueness of the iMac attributed to the iPod). This gives the device a nice welcome and family feel to existing products of these qualities, and calls out hey, I work with other things that look like me! So consumers will be able to (hopefully) associate quality products by their style, and take comfort in their synthesis.

THIS is what Apple is.


* Copy hardware style? Probably.
* Copy the user interface? Hell no.

 

[nichrome]

Re: Apple and Device Interfaces

Originally posted by mproud
They want to control every aspect and make the Macintosh a truly unique and rich experience.

They want to make money.

 

[yossele]

Ian did you try to call the magazine editors? do you have there number, or email?

 

[notmatt]

Re: Re: Apple and Device Interfaces

Originally posted by nichrome
They want to make money.

That's why they're a for-profit corporation. Why do people constantly act so shocked and apalled that such entities want to make money? If you really object to making money, there are alternatives.

 

[Quark]

Re: Apple and Device Interfaces

Originally posted by mproud
...You will not see Apple put Aqua on another device, or anything that even REMOTELY looks like Aqua unless Apple first decides Aqua is dead on Mac OS X, and even then, Apple will probably find some better thing to do by that point....

THIS is what Apple is.


* Copy hardware style? Probably.
* Copy the user interface? Hell no.

Uhmmm, you are very, very wrong on this.

I especially don't like the way you make it sound so matter-of-fact like.

Apple has already done this.

Has anyone here been to a physical Apple store and made a purchase with a Credit Card?

There is a device that has an Aqua interface where you sign for your credit card. It looks like a Verifone product, and might well be, but the point is that Apple put the Aqua interface on it.

So your point has no basis in fact.

Sorry about the tone, but this is the fact.

Quark

 

[JtheLemur]

I have a T610 and it kicks booty. And NO, they have NOT been recalled - the first batch have a hissing problem, it sounds sort of like light static in the background when you're talking to someone. Not horrible, but can be slightly annoying. Every batch after that is fine, and those with phones from the first batch can voluntarily send theirs in for a fix. (actually a source tells me they do a 1-for-1 swap with a new unit.) Poeple in the US with hissing ones will be able to send theirs in to SonyE US for the fix within two weeks. =D

 

[TreeTruckie]

T610 in Chicago?

Does anyone know of any wireless carriers in Chicago who offer the T610? I've checked all of the carriers I'm aware of, and haven't been able to find this phone locally.

 

[macnews]

I would buy an iphone like the one pictured. I have a hard time believing Apple will not make a PDA or cell phone. I know SJ has said no several times but then there is the newton and the whole digital hub strategy. Even the new iPods have a PDAish feel to them IMHO. Cell phone and PDAs are part of many people's current digital hub. I would hope what Apple would come out with would be something better and different. The phones (like the T610 mentioned) and PDAs (Palm zire71) do their respective main job well but suck at the rest of the digital hub aspect (taking pictures, email, general user interface).

I think it will be a few more years before you see an Apple PDA and or cell phone. The post about an Apple branded phone is a good idea and could help bring in additional revenue. A true Apple made product like this though be a while. After all, how long has iphone.org pointed to apple.com?

 

[AndrewMT]

What wireless plans can you get with the 610? Unlimited data?

 

[evoluzione]

Yeah, it looks just like an retouched T610. By the way, they're awesome, I was in Apple Soho the other day when one of the geniuses started oohing and ahhing over it, before the new iSync and BT upgrades came out, it worked flawlessly with both. as far as getting hold of one in the States, not for a few months yet, unless you buy it overseas, as I did.


Anyways, I was thinking yesterday, with this new QT6.3 and the 3gpp component, that the yet to be released SonyEricsson Z1010 will utilise this, (fyi, that phone has 2, yes two, cameras, one for taking snaps, and one facing you for videoconferencing) Maybe it's an iChat plan??????? iChat videoconferencing on your cellphone. This would make a lot of sense I reckon, and would fill in some gaps re: iChat video icons or whatever were spotted

 

[JtheLemur]

To the above people asking where to get a T610 - nowhere. No carriers sell it yet. T-Mobile will be carrying it soon, but not until at least the end of July. But as long as you have GSM service in your area (T-Mo, Cingular, some AT&T) you can just pop your SIM card in the T610 and it'll work. Just make sure to enter your GRPS settings correctly (if you have a data plan).

Places to get it:

http://www.gsmphonesource.com (recommended)
http://www.mobilefly.com
http://www.just-talk.com
http://www.allglobaltk.com

It's a really great little gadget. Prices will go down during this month, they're still high for the early suckers. Oops, I mean.... suckers. Like me.

 

[JtheLemur]

Macnews - the interface on the T610 is actually really great. You can take a picture and have it e-mailed with like, three button presses. The interface uses a lot of graphics, there's Info entries for 80% of the menu options, and so forth. A real nice change from somewhat cryptic phone interfaces *cough* Motorola *cough*.

 

[bennetsaysargh]

apple didn't copy the GUI for the iPod, so why would they do this for a phone? they don't won't do that. never. the case yes, most likely, but still, the software won't be the same. another GUI wold be used in any new devices.

 

[Frozone]

Down at the bottom of the Phone it says something that looks sorta like Sony Ericson but I couldn't quite make it out. Could this be a Phone not 'made' by Apple but still made 'for' Apple?

 

[mproud]

Re: Re: Apple and Device Interfaces

Originally posted by Quark
Uhmmm, you are very, very wrong on this.

I especially don't like the way you make it sound so matter-of-fact like.

Apple has already done this.

Has anyone here been to a physical Apple store and made a purchase with a Credit Card?

There is a device that has an Aqua interface where you sign for your credit card. It looks like a Verifone product, and might well be, but the point is that Apple put the Aqua interface on it.

So your point has no basis in fact.

Sorry about the tone, but this is the fact.

Quark

Interesting. That's pretty cool. I didn't know about that.

But you're losing focus. I'm talking about consumer products. No consumer products will have ripoffs of Aqua. If the iPod goes color one day, for example, it just won't sport Aqua. Maybe it'll sport Crimson or Jade or Obsidian (playing along), but Apple will not poorly copy a design like that onto a totally different device that's used for totally different things.

So, seeing an Aqua scheme with similar icons, etc., on a device like the one of the ad, it should be a dead giveaway, to begin with, that the product is fake.

It's one of those things where the parody of what 'has come' is way cooler or more fun than 'what's to come', just because the real one is too practical. (Does this make sense? I'm not trying to flame people for these ads - I think they're cool too - I'm just saying it's not realistic because reality is not always as cool.)

 

[loneAzdgari]

I have this magazine. IT IS NOT REAL. If you look above those images it says "What would happen if Apple released........"

Sorry to disappoint you lot!!!

BTW iCreate doesnt have a website yet, its UK based only