iPhone 14/Plus Is the iPhone 14 worth £50 more than the 13?

[The-Real-Deal82]

Most people I know who aren’t phone enthusiasts are not comparing specs in any detail, so £749 vs £849 means more often than not the iPhone 13 is popular. Unfortunately Apple are doing the bare minimum with the standard iPhones are all their efforts go on the Pro’s. Why should people buy the latest when they can get lasts years model cheaper and with minimum aesthetic and performance difference?

 

[d5aqoëp]

Now I seem to have gotten over the eye strain, I’m very happy with my 14 and hope to keep it for at least 5 years

How? Even I suffer from eye strain every now and then. Went to eye specialist who checked my eyes in various machines only to ask me to go home as no issues found.

 

[martin2345uk]

How? Even I suffer from eye strain every now and then. Went to eye specialist who checked my eyes in various machines only to ask me to go home as no issues found.

Honestly I don’t know. I’m obviously questioning if it even was PWM sensitivity. When I first got it I got headaches and sore eyes when I used it, but now I just don’t. Maybe it was just coincidence, I have no other explanation

 

[I7guy]

Most people I know who aren’t phone enthusiasts are not comparing specs in any detail, so £749 vs £849 means more often than not the iPhone 13 is popular. Unfortunately Apple are doing the bare minimum with the standard iPhones are all their efforts go on the Pro’s. Why should people buy the latest when they can get lasts years model cheaper and with minimum aesthetic and performance difference?

My parable is when people buy new cars I know some who wait for sales of the outgoing model years and some who absolutely have to get the latest years’ model. To me cars are as personal phones and many spend a lot of time using them. Other consumer products are far less personal. Ymmv.

 

[Yebubbleman]

Sure if one ignores every difference except the cpu the difference is minimal. Taken in the aggregate all the upgrades to me would be worth a few more bucks.

I think a lot of my bias against the iPhone 14 is that I'm wary of the removal of the physical SIM slot in the U.S., I KNOW Emergency Crash Detection is not a mature feature, and I'm not ready to fork over the extra money for the subscription cost to make Satellite SOS function.

Past those things, it's 2GB of RAM extra, one extra GPU core, and a slightly better camera setup, all for the price that I should be paying for an A16 Bionic instead.

 

[Citizen45]

Personally, yes. The 6GB RAM on its own can mean an extra year (or longer) software support, and that might worth a lot depending on iPhone prices 3 to 5 years from now. Also, the iPhone 14 gets the sensor-shift camera from the 13 Pro, and the auto-focus front facing camera.

This.

I own a 13, and I’m very happy with it.

But I would easily pay $50 for 2GB more RAM.

I’m a heavy user and the 4GB is a bit annoying with programs closing in the background.

 

[I7guy]

I think a lot of my bias against the iPhone 14 is that I'm wary of the removal of the physical SIM slot in the U.S., I KNOW Emergency Crash Detection is not a mature feature, and I'm not ready to fork over the extra money for the subscription cost to make Satellite SOS function.

Past those things, it's 2GB of RAM extra, one extra GPU core, and a slightly better camera setup, all for the price that I should be paying for an A16 Bionic instead.

Esim has been fine on my i14PM. We’ll see what happens when we travel internationally. That there is crash detection and emergency satellite SOS free for two years is a plus. Living in the east coast and spending time in Manhattan sure emergency SOS may not be useful. But out west in the less travelled areas it could be useful.

Well I thought it was worth it as I went from an xr to an i14PM. YMMV.

 

[Yebubbleman]

Esim has been fine on my i14PM. We’ll see what happens when we travel internationally.

I think that's my main concern. If memory serves, eSIM has been on every iPhone model dating back to the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR, as well as every A12/X/Z based iPad and newer. It's when there's no physical SIM option and I'm traveling somewhere or when I want to switch carriers but can't because now I have to deal with the old carrier de-provisioning the eSIM so that the new carrier can take it that worries me.

That there is crash detection and emergency satellite SOS free for two years is a plus.

Didn't realize it was free for two years. I'm still not jazzed about there being a subscription element to it; I already pay $90 per month in cell phone service.

I'm not saying crash detection isn't cool. But I can think of several times where it would've engaged and called 911 just because I slammed on the brakes too soon and caused my phone to fly out of my passenger seat and onto the very front of the floor on the seat where I'm not going to get it until after it has dialed 911. There are tons of stories of that happening and clearly Apple is looking into fine-tuning it. I'm game for the feature. But it needs time for people to use it before it gets better. I'm more interested in it when we get to that point.

Living in the east coast and spending time in Manhattan sure emergency SOS may not be useful. But out west in the less travelled areas it could be useful.

Oh, it's definitely a useful feature. Don't get me wrong. But it's also a bleeding edge feature and that means that it won't work as well as it will one or two years down the line and it will be a cheaper feature once it becomes more integrated in with the standard cost of owning an active smartphone. We're clearly not there yet.

Well I thought it was worth it as I went from an xr to an i14PM. YMMV.

I was definitely tempted by the iPhone 14 Pro (I don't know that I need the Max; the 6.1" size might be the best for me), but stopped when I realized that the next version will have USB-C and that all of those technologies will be more mature. Still though, going from the XR to any form of 14 Pro is quite the jump! Congrats!

 

[I7guy]

I think that's my main concern. If memory serves, eSIM has been on every iPhone model dating back to the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR, as well as every A12/X/Z based iPad and newer. It's when there's no physical SIM option and I'm traveling somewhere or when I want to switch carriers but can't because now I have to deal with the old carrier de-provisioning the eSIM so that the new carrier can take it that worries me.

We'll see what happens. Worst case rent a phone.

Didn't realize it was free for two years. I'm still not jazzed about there being a subscription element to it; I already pay $90 per month in cell phone service.

So because you have a feature free for two years, under no obligation, you're still not happy about it because you may like it and end up paying?

I'm not saying crash detection isn't cool. But I can think of several times where it would've engaged and called 911 just because I slammed on the brakes too soon and caused my phone to fly out of my passenger seat and onto the very front of the floor on the seat where I'm not going to get it until after it has dialed 911.

You already know this will happen based on what you have read on the internet? Proof positive. In my care all loose items are secured in the event of a crash, including my phone which is stashed somewhere securely.

There are tons of stories of that happening and clearly Apple is looking into fine-tuning it. I'm game for the feature. But it needs time for people to use it before it gets better. I'm more interested in it when we get to that point.

And your positive these stories can be applied to your situation?

Oh, it's definitely a useful feature. Don't get me wrong. But it's also a bleeding edge feature and that means that it won't work as well as it will one or two years down the line and it will be a cheaper feature once it becomes more integrated in with the standard cost of owning an active smartphone. We're clearly not there yet.

So you wait until a feature is perfected before buying a consumer electronic device? Seems like that would be a forever wait.

I was definitely tempted by the iPhone 14 Pro (I don't know that I need the Max; the 6.1" size might be the best for me), but stopped when I realized that the next version will have USB-C and that all of those technologies will be more mature. Still though, going from the XR to any form of 14 Pro is quite the jump! Congrats!

Going from the xr to the i14pm is quite the jump. I was thinking I was going to get the PM also, but now I'll just wait until the 15 comes out. However, could care less about usb-c. The iphone 15 when released will be the best iphone ever!

 

[Yebubbleman]

We'll see what happens. Worst case rent a phone.

Ick.

So because you have a feature free for two years, under no obligation, you're still not happy about it because you may like it and end up paying?

This is the one feature I'm least "worried" about. But yeah, I sort of want to see how this evolves before diving into it. I don't think it's the kind of feature I'll ever use, so it's one I'm not really THAT concerned about. More of a "I'm worried about the others and, incidentally, I also want to see how this one evolves before adopting" kind of stance.

You already know this will happen based on what you have read on the internet? Proof positive.

I know how the feature is supposed to work and what it purports to do and I know that there are others, triggering it in ways that make perfect sense (e.g. a phone flying forward and suddenly making impact with something). Reports of it triggering erroneously are proof of the feature doing its job. This was always going to be a feature that would require fine-tuning that you only get after sampling many more use-cases than Apple internal staff can reasonably provide. This will get better and at that point, I'll be cool with it. For now, I'm fine waiting to adopt it.

In my care all loose items are secured in the event of a crash, including my phone which is stashed somewhere securely.

Dunno what to tell you. Sometimes my phone is in my pocket. Sometimes it isn't. Not everyone has every item they own secured in the event of a crash. Often times, I just have things on the seat of my car and 99 times out of 100, they're perfectly safe there.

And your positive these stories can be applied to your situation?

Absolutely. It's the exact same scenarios and, again, it makes sense. The feature is supposed to gauge sudden impact and act accordingly. That's the entire point of it.

So you wait until a feature is perfected before buying a consumer electronic device? Seems like that would be a forever wait.

It's not. Most features introduced in iPhones that end up being rough around the edges to start with end up maturing after one or two releases. Not every new iPhone introduces such features. And no, not a forever wait. I don't need to spend so much money to be an early adopter to something that's only going to be smoother next go-around.

Going from the xr to the i14pm is quite the jump. I was thinking I was going to get the PM also, but now I'll just wait until the 15 comes out. However, could care less about usb-c. The iphone 15 when released will be the best iphone ever!

For some reason I thought you had already pulled the trigger.

Every new iPhone is the best iPhone ever! (At least from the standpoint of having the latest features. Phones cost too much for me to not be concerned with reliability first and foremost.)

 

[I7guy]

Ick.



This is the one feature I'm least "worried" about. But yeah, I sort of want to see how this evolves before diving into it. I don't think it's the kind of feature I'll ever use, so it's one I'm not really THAT concerned about. More of a "I'm worried about the others and, incidentally, I also want to see how this one evolves before adopting" kind of stance.



I know how the feature is supposed to work and what it purports to do and I know that there are others, triggering it in ways that make perfect sense (e.g. a phone flying forward and suddenly making impact with something). Reports of it triggering erroneously are proof of the feature doing its job. This was always going to be a feature that would require fine-tuning that you only get after sampling many more use-cases than Apple internal staff can reasonably provide. This will get better and at that point, I'll be cool with it. For now, I'm fine waiting to adopt it.



Dunno what to tell you. Sometimes my phone is in my pocket. Sometimes it isn't. Not everyone has every item they own secured in the event of a crash. Often times, I just have things on the seat of my car and 99 times out of 100, they're perfectly safe there.



Absolutely. It's the exact same scenarios and, again, it makes sense. The feature is supposed to gauge sudden impact and act accordingly. That's the entire point of it.



It's not. Most features introduced in iPhones that end up being rough around the edges to start with end up maturing after one or two releases. Not every new iPhone introduces such features. And no, not a forever wait. I don't need to spend so much money to be an early adopter to something that's only going to be smoother next go-around.



For some reason I thought you had already pulled the trigger.

Every new iPhone is the best iPhone ever! (At least from the standpoint of having the latest features. Phones cost too much for me to not be concerned with reliability first and foremost.)

We’ll okay because the internet says it will happen you are positive in the same situation it will happen to you. That’s not my thinking but to each their own.

I got the PM for my spouse and I use the phone for the camera. Other than that yes, it’s a step up and I want a new phone for myself but it’s so late in the season I’m going to wait.

 

[Yebubbleman]

We’ll okay because the internet says it will happen you are positive in the same situation it will happen to you. That’s not my thinking but to each their own.

No. It's not JUST that the Internet says that it will happen. The feature is designed to work a certain way. Apple is VERY clear about how that feature is supposed to work. To be clear, I was wary of adopting this feature this early well before I heard Internet reports of how it is in the wild. The Internet is only confirming the sensitivity of that feature at this time. That's a massive difference from me simply basing my thinking on what the Internet says. Phones cost a lot of money. I'm not sure you can really fault anyone for being overly cautious with stuff like that, especially since there is a history of early adopters getting screwed by Apple for early stage features getting released before they've been fine-tuned.

I won't ever fault you or anyone else for having more courage (or more money). But that's not how I smartphone.

 

[I7guy]

No. It's not JUST that the Internet says that it will happen. The feature is designed to work a certain way. Apple is VERY clear about how that feature is supposed to work. To be clear, I was wary of adopting this feature this early well before I heard Internet reports of how it is in the wild. The Internet is only confirming the sensitivity of that feature at this time. That's a massive difference from me simply basing my thinking on what the Internet says. Phones cost a lot of money. I'm not sure you can really fault anyone for being overly cautious with stuff like that, especially since there is a history of early adopters getting screwed by Apple for early stage features getting released before they've been fine-tuned.

I won't ever fault you or anyone else for having more courage (or more money). But that's not how I smartphone.

I don't assume. Because you've read about a certain behavior on the internet and you believe you can mimic that behavior and get the same result, you are not correct. For those who don't have a collision and 911 system, this is a God send, combined with emergency satellite calling.

Phones do cost a lot of money, but the point is the iphone 14 is worth the additional cost over the iphone 13. Just turn off the features you don't want on, but these are great features.