MP 7,1 Is the new Mac Pro too expensive? [MERGED]

[MacPro2020]

**** them and the high horse they rode in on.

$5,000 computer for the masses?

$6,000 monitor???

$999 for an aluminum stand???

My damn iPhone is already $1,000.

!!!!! Out of touch dumbasses!!!!

 

[0388631]

Might I suggest putting some money away each month? A line of credit? Selling your soul?

 

[The_Joker13]

For the masses? Seriously, who’s out of touch? This is not a product intended for 95% of users. That being said, the pricing is disappointing, but that’s apple.

 

[vladid]

Easy there sport. Sorry you're disappointed with the Mac Pro offering, but it clearly does not target you as a customer if you believe it's priced out of reach. The Mac Pro is not a computer for the masses, but rather a specific subset of power users who demand the performance.

 

[bbednarz]

Uh. Neither of these items are needed by the masses. See the word "Pro". You do not need this for Facebook and email.
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Uh. Neither of these items are needed by the masses. See the word "Pro". You do not need this for Facebook and email.

Wait, you just joined today? Shocker. Obvious troll is obvious, sorry for feeding it.

 

[keysofanxiety]

$5,000 computer for the masses?

I know, right! All those masses of users requiring 128GB of VRAM and 1TB of memory for their workflow.

No way this’ll compete with your high street $300 tower.

 

[JesperA]

Im always amazed with people like you, "for the masses", wtf, once i even saw a macrumor member waiting for the 7,1 so he could replace his current HTPC.

Why do these people pop up from time to time in this subforum, having absolutely no clue what a Mac Pro is, whats its for and who its for?

 

[BigMcGuire]

Brand new account, I hate apple on an apple forum thread.... Macrumors will make sure this hits 15-20 pages before a few hours. You win the internet. Congrats.

 

[aaronhead14]

The new Mac Pro is actually very competitively priced when compared to Z Workstations and other Pro machines. Yes, you could build a PC for cheaper, but professionals rarely do that. They go with workstations that have support behind them. So if you look at it that way, Apple is now the cheapest option for that type of pro workstation. Especially with the monitor. I've been in the market for a pro HDR reference display for DolbyVision grading, and the only ones on the market until today have cost around $50,000.

So before you start ripping on Apple for this Mac Pro, put things into perspective! Apple is seriously undercutting their competitors, and giving us a less expensive option that's arguably much, much better. Just because it wasn't designed for you doesn't mean it's not what real professionals want. This is exactly what we wanted!

 

[h9826790]

This is the price for a Z workstation that has similar config. It seems the 7,1 isn't that expensive indeed.

 

[BigMcGuire]

This is the price for a Z workstation that has similar config. It seems the 7,1 isn't that expensive indeed.

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This is clearly an Apple bashing thread.... how inappropriate of you to bring facts and reason here!

 

[star-affinity]

The new Mac Pro is actually very competitively priced when compared to Z Workstations and other Pro machines. Yes, you could build a PC for cheaper, but professionals rarely do that. They go with workstations that have support behind them. So if you look at it that way, Apple is now the cheapest option for that type of pro workstation. Especially with the monitor. I've been in the market for a pro HDR reference display for DolbyVision grading, and the only ones on the market until today have cost around $50,000.

So before you start ripping on Apple for this Mac Pro, put things into perspective! Apple is seriously undercutting their competitors, and giving us a less expensive option that's arguably much, much better. Just because it wasn't designed for you doesn't mean it's not what real professionals want. This is exactly what we wanted!

Awesome. But I'd still like to see a ”headless” iMac – basically a desktop tower without a display and a dedicated graphics card, call it semi-Pro if you will. I find it sad that Apple doesn't sell that kind of desktop computer. The Mac mini is somewhat interesting, but an eGPU still gets considerably less performance than if it's being connected directly to a PCI-Express slot.

 

[nouveau_redneck]

Account created today. A hater is born.

 

[richpjr]

I fully expected a hefty price tag and that is what we got for that monster of a machine. The one thing that really does seem over the top though is the price for the stand.

 

[MacPro2020]

I’m happy they created a computer for Bill Gates but I’m still left with no solution to stay as a Mac user. I need an expandable desktop that can cut 4K raw that will run Catalina. Shame on Apple, Tim Cook is a terrible CEO.

 

[filterdecay]

people keep thinking apple is gonna release some dumb little dell box with sharp corners and a micro atx case with a **** tear chipset for $1299.99 on sale today for 899.99. Never gonna happen.

 

[Umbongo]

I've been posting on here since the original Mac Pro, same reactions across the web every time. No such reaction to HP, Lenovo, Dell, Fujitsu, Sun, Boxx and other vendors had same products and prices.

Or when Caterpillar, JCB, or John Deere announce new heavy plant machinery/tractors and they aren't priced like a family car.
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people keep thinking apple is gonna release some dumb little dell box with sharp corners and a micro atx case with a **** tear chipset for $1299.99 on sale today for 899.99. Never gonna happen.

Lol yep, for 13 years! 6 of which were between announcements of a Mac Pro lol. Nothing changes.

 

[filterdecay]

This is the price for a Z workstation that has similar config. It seems the 7,1 isn't that expensive indeed.

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right on the money.

 

[upandown]

Some things we can responsibly afford. Some things we can not. Learn it.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Awesome. But I'd still like to see a ”headless” iMac – basically a desktop tower without a display and a dedicated graphics card, call it semi-Pro if you will. I find it sad that Apple doesn't sell that kind of desktop computer. The Mac mini is somewhat interesting, but an eGPU still gets considerably less performance than if it's being connected directly to a PCI-Express slot.

Never going to happen...Apple stopped addressing that market when the Power Mac G5 shipped. The Mac Pro put the final nail in the coffin and Apple moved the Mac Pro further upmarket to give the iMac some breathing room.

The mini-tower PC is not the market where Apple wants to compete, there is no upside for them.

 

[AidenShaw]

This is the price for a Z workstation that has similar config. It seems the 7,1 isn't that expensive indeed.

How convenient that your "comparison" is against a Scalable Xeon that can go to dual sockets, 56 cores, 3 TiB RAM and 48 TB of internal storage. (https://petapixel.com/2017/09/13/hp-z8-pc-can-upgraded-insane-3tb-ram-48tb-storage/)

Perhaps you would be more credible if you compared it to a Xeon-W single socket workstation from HP.

Jesus H. Christ Riding a Bicycle - I hate these "price comparisons" between Apples and Walnuts.

 

[filterdecay]

How convenient that your "comparison" is against a Scalable Xeon that can go to dual sockets, 56 cores, 3 TiB RAM and 48 TB of internal storage.

Perhaps you would be more credible if you compared it to a Xeon-W single socket workstation from HP.

Jesus H. Christ Riding a Bicycle - I hate these "price comparisons" between Apples and Walnuts.

it wouldnt be more comparable because the w cpu isnt the one going in this. Its a new product that has close to the specs of the system he posted.

 

[AidenShaw]

it wouldnt be more comparable because the w cpu isnt the one going in this. Its a new product that has close to the specs of the system he posted.

Yes, it's the next generation W.

 

[filterdecay]

Yes, it's the next generation W.

with double the cache and other unknown features at this point.

 

[Umbongo]

with double the cache and other unknown features at this point.

No unknowns Intel have all specs available.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...productIds=193739,193749,193753,193750,193754

Just thought I'd point out that Apple are going with the M versions on two higher ones which cost thousands more purely for 2TB memory support instead of 1TB which seems a dick move.

W-3223 ($749)
W-3235 ($1398
W-3245 ($1999)
W-3265M ($6353)
W-3275M ($7453)