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ZEEN0j

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The plastic part between the screen and frame act as a cushion so the screen doesn’t crack. Having metal and glass directly touching is not very smart.
 

Ta0jin

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From my understanding there is adhesive layer around the frame, ports and openings that keeps the water out.
 

Vermifuge

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I don't think apple has said specifically that it is, but it appeared in the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus. Users immediately noticed their phones survived better in water / liquids. Apple also introduced silicone seals along all the connectors and ports. This seems to be another price to the liquids protection.
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There isn't a rubber gasket, it's just glued on.

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1096bimu

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I don't think apple has said specifically that it is, but it appeared in the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus. Users immediately noticed their phones survived better in water / liquids. Apple also introduced silicone seals along all the connectors and ports. This seems to be another price to the liquids protection.
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That's the glue
 

Vermifuge

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That's the glue

https://ifixit.org/blog/7408/iphone-waterproof/

First, Apple takes this gasket business pretty seriously: they didn’t just run a strip of glue around the existing display like they were caulking a bathtub. Instead, it appears the iPhone’s frame has been subtly reworked to accommodate the new gasket. We noted a slight, but measurable, increase in the width of the lip running along the perimeter of the frame—it’s about 0.3 mm wider than on the iPhone 6, making it just wide enough for that little gasket to land on.

but please, tell me fixit is wrong so you can have the last word.
 

Vermifuge

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That's the 6s, and it wasn't advertised as being water proof, and isn't the model we're talking about.

Yes its exactly what the article says. Apple quietly made the change in the 6s and it is clearly present in the 8 as you can see the gasket int he photo linked... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ no idea why you want to spread misinformation
 

JPack

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Looks like some people don't understand the difference between gasket and glue.
 

Hieveryone

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Looks like some people don't understand the difference between gasket and glue.

That’s what I’m saying. There’s like a gasket even in the iphone 6 I think that’s between the metal and glass. It’s black. But isn’t there also a glue in the newer models for water resistance?
 

Vermifuge

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1096bimu

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Apple said it uses microscopic or something along those lines
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the black doesn't go all the way around so it can't be a gasket or the glue.


You can clearly see there is only the glue on the left.

If you gave it a bit of thought you might be able to realize that it makes no sense to have a gasket and glue because the gasket would just prevent the glue from doing its job.
The whole point of having gaskets in general is to fill in gaps between hard materials you can't machine with perfect tolerance. There is already the glue so why would you need something redundant?
 
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JPack

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That’s what I’m saying. There’s like a gasket even in the iphone 6 I think that’s between the metal and glass. It’s black. But isn’t there also a glue in the newer models for water resistance?

The newer models like 7 and 8 are not water resistant because of glue. It is because of gaskets.

They have additional gaskets around the power button, volume buttons, speaker, SIM tray, and even around the Pentalobe screws holes at the bottom of the phone. iPhone 6s and older don't have these gaskets.
 

Vermifuge

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The newer models like 7 and 8 are not water resistant because of glue.

They have additional gaskets around the power button, volume buttons, speaker, SIM tray, and even around the Pentalobe screws holes at the bottom of the phone.

If i recall fixit stated the 8 is missing the gaskets on the screws. but otherwise all correct.
 

Hieveryone

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What I’m saying is that when you look at the iPhone head one, you see the screen which is glass, THEN A BLACK GASKET, then the metal frame.

What is that? Is that the water resistant something or another or is there glue inside?
 

Vermifuge

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What I’m saying is that when you look at the iPhone head one, you see the screen which is glass, THEN A BLACK GASKET, then the metal frame.

What is that? Is that the water resistant something or another or is there glue inside?

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Vermifuge

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Neither of those is the glue or a gasket.
A is the screen, B is the plastic insert between the glass and the metal.

i want to know what the user is asking about, i'm not saying either is a gasket. The user is clearly asking about something else.

I'm here to actually answer questions...
 

1096bimu

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@Vermifuge

Ok so what is that plastic insert then? Is that what makes the iPhone 8 water resistant?

The plastic insert makes it easier to fit the glass to the metal due to manufacturing tolerances. Also it reduces the shock transfer when the metal edge hits the ground, reducing risk of shattering when the glass didn't land first.
It's hard plastic and it has nothing to do with water resistance.
 

Hieveryone

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The plastic insert makes it easier to fit the glass to the metal due to manufacturing tolerances. Also it reduces the shock transfer when the metal edge hits the ground, reducing risk of shattering when the glass didn't land first.
It's hard plastic and it has nothing to do with water resistance.

Ah ok. Makes sense. I thought that was the water resistance something or another but it’s been there at least since the 6S!!!
 

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Interestingly enough about the iPhone 6s, it did not have a water resistance rating, but It did hold up to water subjectivity fairly well due to the adhesive used.
 
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