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M4 macbook pro in 2024?
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I personally think yes, late this year we will see M4 devices announced. It is too expensive and wasteful for Apple to stay on the N3B process longer than they have to.
M3 is not a downgrade compared to M2.
Obviously hard to say, but I think the plan is according to current rumors:
- M3 MacBook Air in March
- M3 Ultra Mac Studio either at WWDC (according to trendforce) or in the second half of 2024 (according to Mark Gurman)
If the M3 Ultra is not released at WWDC and instead pushed back to later this year, I don’t think we would get M4 MacBook Pro’s this year, if it is released at WWDC though, that would leave space for a MacBook Pro refresh in October or November.
So far, there has not been any regularity with Apple chip upgrades, so we really don’t know, I hope they don’t refresh the MacBook Pro yearly though and instead make bigger improvements every 18 months or so. What speaks against that is that we got yearly updates since 2021, if we assume M2 Pro/Max were planned for late 2022.
- M3 MacBook Air in March
- M3 Ultra Mac Studio either at WWDC (according to trendforce) or in the second half of 2024 (according to Mark Gurman)
If the M3 Ultra is not released at WWDC and instead pushed back to later this year, I don’t think we would get M4 MacBook Pro’s this year, if it is released at WWDC though, that would leave space for a MacBook Pro refresh in October or November.
So far, there has not been any regularity with Apple chip upgrades, so we really don’t know, I hope they don’t refresh the MacBook Pro yearly though and instead make bigger improvements every 18 months or so. What speaks against that is that we got yearly updates since 2021, if we assume M2 Pro/Max were planned for late 2022.
"BUT ON PAPER THE MEMORY BANDWIDTH IS WORESSSSEE!!!!!111!"
As above, the M3 is not a downgrade. It's faster in almost everything and par in some things. Truth is the M1 Pro and M2 Pro machines probably have more bandwidth than they can reasonably use - the numbers just were what they were because 100GB/sec was not enough and 200GB/sec was the next step (at the time) with more memory channels.
Overall it is a massive upgrade if you consider the new faster GPU also has RT support.
Steady on, M3 needs to come to Mini and Studio before M4 breaks cover.
Yes, I believe the M4 will come out later this fall in 2024. There has been signs and talk about Apple getting back to a yearly cycle on most (not all) of their devices like they had been prior to 2020. To do this, they'd need to have their M-series of chips to be released on a yearly basis like the A-series for the Iphones. Every tech company releases most of their devices on a yearly basis as well so it makes perfect sense to me.
I'd put money on it being more likely than not. N3E is committed for iPhone 16 and Apple will like to want to get off the expensive N3B process ASAP.
It appears Apple is trying for annual MPB updates and likely the M2 was delayed due to 3nm production confusion while the M3 was course corrected to being back on schedule.
It appears Apple is trying for annual MPB updates and likely the M2 was delayed due to 3nm production confusion while the M3 was course corrected to being back on schedule.
It does make me wonder why Apple stuck with old LPDDR5-6400 for a third time/year though. Upgrading to LPDDR5X-7500 would've helped mitigate the reduction in bus width.
M3 is definitely an upgrade compared to M2 and a massive one in some aspects, no question about it.
I can only assume due to the higher cost, but that's just an assumption.
Doubt it'll be 2024.
N3B may be expensive, but you know what's more expensive? Designing a chip for N3B, which costs around $1B. Sounds simple to just move to M4, but that's a lot of money. Apple needs to sell enough Macs and iPads to recover that $1B NRE cost first.
N3E uses very different design rules, so you can't just port over from N3B.
N3B may be expensive, but you know what's more expensive? Designing a chip for N3B, which costs around $1B. Sounds simple to just move to M4, but that's a lot of money. Apple needs to sell enough Macs and iPads to recover that $1B NRE cost first.
N3E uses very different design rules, so you can't just port over from N3B.
I actually jumped onto the Mini LED train because I heard rumors of OLED now with my M3 Pro MBP. I love OLED but with the OLED screens I checked out on the windows laptops I don't see any brighter than 500 nits. I find mini led great and if I really want to use OLED I can hook it up to my LG OLED monitor at home.
