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I am confused. Why wouldn't the 2.13ghz Macbook Air beat out the 2.0ghz Mac Mini from 2009 which came in at about 2700 points on geekbench?
 

adamjackson

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I am confused. Why wouldn't the 2.13ghz Macbook Air beat out the 2.0ghz Mac Mini from 2009 which came in at about 2700 points on geekbench?

I'm willing to be it's the solid state drive. I didn't go for the 2.13 because of the speed. that's just resale value in my opinion. My reason was the SSD. Put an SSD in the mini and i bet you'll be fine.

BTW. what's the Front side bus and RAM speed of the Mac mini? MBA is 1066Mhz. Thay may have something to do with it as well.
 

gman901

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I am confused. Why wouldn't the 2.13ghz Macbook Air beat out the 2.0ghz Mac Mini from 2009 which came in at about 2700 points on geekbench?

Because when Geekbench rates performance for the 2.13 Ghz, it's throttling down to 1.60 Ghz, while the Mac Mini maintains a 2.0 Ghz processor speed throughout the test. I have a Mac mini and the 2.13 Ghz and have the same Geekbench scores. My guess is that Apple has the Air agressively clocking down the processor to avoid meltdowns.
 

NC MacGuy

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I don't think GeekBench measures disk performance. XBench would do that.

My 1.86 Rev. B SSD GeekBench:
 

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California

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Because when Geekbench rates performance for the 2.13 Ghz, it's throttling down to 1.60 Ghz, while the Mac Mini maintains a 2.0 Ghz processor speed throughout the test. I have a Mac mini and the 2.13 Ghz and have the same Geekbench scores. My guess is that Apple has the Air agressively clocking down the processor to avoid meltdowns.

Can't you override this MB Air clockdown by putting "energy saver" on "Highest" instead of "automatic"?

DayStar used to sell a program that would override this "down clocking" on Macs, can't remember what it's called.
 

California

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I'm willing to be it's the solid state drive. I didn't go for the 2.13 because of the speed. that's just resale value in my opinion. My reason was the SSD. Put an SSD in the mini and i bet you'll be fine.

BTW. what's the Front side bus and RAM speed of the Mac mini? MBA is 1066Mhz. Thay may have something to do with it as well.

No, you read it wrong. The 2.0 Mini is clocked faster than the MacBook Air on the scores.

The mini has the same bus speed. The 2.13 Macbook Air should perform marginally faster than the mini and it scored LOWER, i.e. SLOWER than the 2.0 ghz Mini.
 

adamjackson

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No, you read it wrong. The 2.0 Mini is clocked faster than the MacBook Air on the scores.

The mini has the same bus speed. The 2.13 Macbook Air should perform marginally faster than the mini and it scored LOWER, i.e. SLOWER than the 2.0 ghz Mini.


ah sorry yeah i did read that wrong. speedstep makes sense. It's unfortunate that it's hard to truly gauge the speed correctly when it does that.
 

ayeying

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Could've scored higher but the system was running a lot of stuff... plus vista vm
 

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Scottsdale

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It would be a mistake to buy an HDD MBA. What makes the MBA enjoyable is the fact that it feels like a MBP but only when the MBA has an SSD.

Do yourself a favor and buy either rev B 1.86/SSD refurbished for $1349 before ever spending even half as much for a rev C MBA with HDD.

The HDD makes the MBA a slow boring incapable ultraportable that doesn't make it a primary capable Mac.
 

Cynicalone

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It would be a mistake to buy an HDD MBA. What makes the MBA enjoyable is the fact that it feels like a MBP but only when the MBA has an SSD.

Do yourself a favor and buy either rev B 1.86/SSD refurbished for $1349 before ever spending even half as much for a rev C MBA with HDD.

The HDD makes the MBA a slow boring incapable ultraportable that doesn't make it a primary capable Mac.

I agree 100% with that.

Both my early 08 (Rev. A) and late 08 (Rev. B) have the SSD. I wouldn't buy the Air without one. Now if only they would use a standard connector so I could swap them out myself...
 

slapguts

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Rev. A, 80gb HD. No idea why the number is this high.
 

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