I am using Microsoft Edge an all devices now and have also the background refresh enabled for it. But on my iPad Air 2019 the tabs are always reloading when I have only 2 or 3 tabs opened and only 1,2 apps in the background. Same like in Safari... Don’t know what they have done in iOS 13 but everything sucks there.
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All Devices Memory management in iOS 13 sucks
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I was wondering if its just or mostly an 11 / 11 Pro thing even though I understand they have more ram then their predecessors. Sometimes new hardware with new iOS introduces bugs specific to new hardware. Not trying to throw shade, just speculating since I'm reading lots of people with RAM issues are on the new devices. But could also be that of people on iOS 13, a lot are on new hardware because whenever new hardware comes out naturally people are talking about that more than older devices.
I think 5S was a good example of that back on iOS 7 at launch vs. older devices, even though I only test drove 5S and then returned it. Then again, iOS 7 was a total mess all together and I was on iOS 7.1 beta for the longest time because of 7.0.x crappiness even on my 5. Trying to think of other examples -- I am generally on the latest and greatest but have skipped a few (skipped 8 for X which was still A11 just repackaged, 5S because I knew I'd get touchID in a future iPhone, and 11 iterations so far because I've been relatively happy with my XR and holding out funds for iPhone 9, 12, or some other one maybe if XR keeps humming along and not much is tempting me)
My iPad Pro 2017 12.9 on iPadOS 13.3 seems to be humming along as well. And Mini5 on 13.3. I think I see it lose track of things a bit more quickly than when it was on iOS 11.3.1 before that, but I've had Youtube and multiple tabs left open on Safari and come back to them fine after a day or two in many cases
and iPadOS 13 pros has outweighed cons leapfrogging from iOS 11 in my experience, ymmv
It’s pretty much the worst on any phone I’ve had in the last 5 years. I can’t even leave a simple web page for a second without it having to reload. IOS 13 is puke.
I frequently get this behaviour on my iPad Pro 12.9“ 3rd gen.
A couple of really, really, annoying examples:
Apollo, the Reddit Client - often, scrolling through a lengthy subreddit for several minutes, I leave the iPad for a few minutes (so it locks the screen) I unlock, and Apollo has been purged from memory completely. Note, in this scenario, I don’t minimise the app...I just leave the iPad, and it still kills it.
Similar behaviour with other apps that you’d use for longer periods of time, for example, Drivetribe, Tapatalk, and Pinterest. And also Safari, and most apps are completely killed if you so much as dare to open the camera, even by accident.
This behaviour was never a thing in iOS 12. it’s gotten considerably worse since iOS 13 and the multiple updates to the new iPadOS have made no difference. Either the new iPadOS actually needs more memory than the iPad Pro has, or they’ve done a horrible job trying to optimise the new operating system.
iPad Pro is supposed to be a professional-level product and iPadOS is supposed to be a capable multitasking operating system. With these significant issues with iPadOS pretty much ruining the user experience, it’s clear that unless this new behaviour is „by design“ (and that is idiotic, if so) then Apple have some significant work to do, to address these problems.
And given their inability to fix some of the widely reported issues with email in iOS 13, I am not holding my breath!
A couple of really, really, annoying examples:
Apollo, the Reddit Client - often, scrolling through a lengthy subreddit for several minutes, I leave the iPad for a few minutes (so it locks the screen) I unlock, and Apollo has been purged from memory completely. Note, in this scenario, I don’t minimise the app...I just leave the iPad, and it still kills it.
Similar behaviour with other apps that you’d use for longer periods of time, for example, Drivetribe, Tapatalk, and Pinterest. And also Safari, and most apps are completely killed if you so much as dare to open the camera, even by accident.
This behaviour was never a thing in iOS 12. it’s gotten considerably worse since iOS 13 and the multiple updates to the new iPadOS have made no difference. Either the new iPadOS actually needs more memory than the iPad Pro has, or they’ve done a horrible job trying to optimise the new operating system.
iPad Pro is supposed to be a professional-level product and iPadOS is supposed to be a capable multitasking operating system. With these significant issues with iPadOS pretty much ruining the user experience, it’s clear that unless this new behaviour is „by design“ (and that is idiotic, if so) then Apple have some significant work to do, to address these problems.
And given their inability to fix some of the widely reported issues with email in iOS 13, I am not holding my breath!
Im having this same issue and I have iPhone XR. Sad day ?
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Im still having these issues. Especially with YouTube. Has it been patched yet or I’m I having a different issue?
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The 11 series should have been:
iPhone 11 - 6GB RAM
iPhone 11 Pro - 8GB RAM
iPhone 11 Pro Max - 8GB RAM
They could keep going with this setup through the 12, 13 and 14 models and just added features.
With all the above said, I still love using my XS MaxI love the attention to detail Apple pay to the aesthetics of their devices, along with the quality of the apps in iOS, they are a cut above their Android counterparts, and the Apple Watch and iPad are by far the best in their categories.
Apple really just need to cut the crap and out more RAM in iPhones and make iOS more multitasking friendly.
I love the attention to detail Apple pay to the aesthetics of their devices, along with the quality of the apps in iOS, they are a cut above their Android counterparts, and the Apple Watch and iPad are by far the best in their categories.I agree that the next round of iPhones should have more RAM. I’d double whatever the current iPhones have if I was Apple.
Also, on battery life, you have to remember that one, Apple’s phone I believe have smaller batteries then the other phones you mentioned and Apple’s screen I also believe have a higher refresh rate. I’d love Apple with their next redesign of the iPhone to add a bigger battery for their Pro models. With their battery management and a bigger battery it’ll definitely be better.
I think they are overloaded right now. Getting ready to switch to ARM and adding Desktop feature to iPadOS. In the end it’ll be better but I wouldn’t doubt that’s why these issues are STILL happening. They are focused on the future and not today.
Im trying Opera on iPhone to see if that’s better.
I don’t believe that. But I do think the new iPhones this year needs more RAM.
I totally agree. They need to fix this.
Starting with 13.2 RAM management really changed. Those of us in beta complained loudly. It has been up and down ever since but has never been "fixed".
Granted all my devices (mini 5, SE1, XR when I had it before selling, 12.9 2017 iPad Pro) are on iOS 13.3 and only my SE2 is on 13.4, but it seems like if its not a hardware difference (not sure why it would be, A13 and same 3GB powering a lower res screen than XR was on A12/3GB) seems iOS 13.4 (cant speak to 13.4.1) has worse Ram management than 13.3
Tons of times in the past couple weeks of having SE2, safari reloads the page without too many tabs and has that banner. Didn't see it as often on iOS 13.3, and really only on my XR every once in a while. Maybe didn't use Se1 as much and iPads handle it differently on iPADOS, not sure.
Tons of times in the past couple weeks of having SE2, safari reloads the page without too many tabs and has that banner. Didn't see it as often on iOS 13.3, and really only on my XR every once in a while. Maybe didn't use Se1 as much and iPads handle it differently on iPADOS, not sure.
I'm having severe memory management problems as well. Every 2 days on this iPhone 7 I have to clear the ram, I can't even switch to Safari without Spotify choking while a song is playing.
I am pretty sure this will be fixed with iOS 14. iOS 12 fixed iOS 11 and similarly iOS 14 will fix iOS 13.