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Microsoft is assuring that the Xbox will die a quick death
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Do you think, my friends PS2 maybe fried itself, cause he has one of those huge, Philipps plasma tv's ? I have no knowledge of how tv's work, so does anyone know if they can change resolution, between what content (sat, cable, vcr, dvd & PS2) ?
Originally posted by hitman
This is very off-topic, but dantec, I saw you are in need of a 'tar.
Will this do?
Hey thanks a lot !
Originally posted by hitman
Damn this really went off-topic...
Sorry about that. I'll start a new thread on vacuum cleaners. iVac might be a good name.
1stly, how was Xbox dead on arrival... ****LOADS have been sold, esp. since M$ is trying their hardest to buy all the greatest games and game makers.
2ndly, there is no way in the world that you can put the DreamCast in the same sentance as the TurboGrafix 16 and 3DO.
The DreamCast was a HUGE machine but its primary market was Japan do to the very arcade nature of Sega. Sega has always made consoles for real gamers where as, to use the age old competition, Nintendo was more for those who actually thought graphics were important. I think the latter of that sentance also goes for M$... they have the people that look at a screen and say "how pretty".
I really don't think too many people actually know much about the way Sega worked and their sector of the market.
Neither the Saturn nor the DreamCast were failures as consoles only, IMO, failures from a marketing perspective.
If you analyse the situation, Ninteno more understood how to make money where as Sega has ALWAYS known how to be the best and push forward technology.
While Nintendo people where still playing Mario on their 16-bit SNES, Sega people were playing games like Doom in 32-bit via the 32-bit adaptor. Then the Sega people got stuck into CDs on their MegaCD or MegaDrive2/MegaCD2 pack. Then, still while Nintendo people where on their SNES, Sega people were playing Saturn. It was only after this time that the Nintendo 64 vs. Sega Saturn vs. Sony Playstation competition emerged. I would also like to point out that the Playstation 1 is still only a 32-bit console which set them pretty far back as a cutting edge machine. Saying this, before the PS1 really got big, the fact that Sony was using a lot of old technology would have paid for their heavy marketing campaign.
Now, from the business/marketing point of view of Sega, I think the 32-bit adaptor and the Saturn were 2 machines they should have left out. This would have given far more resources for developing a better DreamCast, which they would have had on the maket earlier, setting it up as the only competition in their range for the Nintendo 64 and creating a bigger demand like the Nintendo 64 had over the SNES.
Marketing really can make or break a product/company and I think Sega really needed their own Steve Jobs to keep them in the console arena.
I just wish I could buy Crazy Taxi 3 for my DreamCast
Re: Re: Microsoft is assuring that the Xbox will die a quick death
I have an xbox, and I really love it. I wish I had a mod chip because I can't play burned DVDs or burned CDs. They're not illegal...
So you guys know (and I'll repeat this later in the posts), I don't have any complaints about my xbox. Actually, for the price, it's a lot better than any computer you could buy. (for games, of course)
I have an xbox, and I really love it. I wish I had a mod chip because I can't play burned DVDs or burned CDs. They're not illegal...
So you guys know (and I'll repeat this later in the posts), I don't have any complaints about my xbox. Actually, for the price, it's a lot better than any computer you could buy. (for games, of course)
Re: its so funny
get a life. stop making fun of other people because they like certain things that you arbitrarily don't like. I actually don't like halo very much, and I still love my xbox. I don't need to defend it with anything... it's just an opinion.
So you disapprove of microsoft buying people to make their games. wooo. at least they're trying to do SOMETHING... it would be soooo boring if there were only 2 popular video game systems out there.
consider this: how many xboxes do you think have sold in the last year?
now consider this: how many macintosh computers have sold in the last year?
yikes... ... look everybody it's "dead on arrival".
ha!
get a life. stop making fun of other people because they like certain things that you arbitrarily don't like. I actually don't like halo very much, and I still love my xbox. I don't need to defend it with anything... it's just an opinion.
So you disapprove of microsoft buying people to make their games. wooo. at least they're trying to do SOMETHING... it would be soooo boring if there were only 2 popular video game systems out there.
consider this: how many xboxes do you think have sold in the last year?
now consider this: how many macintosh computers have sold in the last year?
yikes... ... look everybody it's "dead on arrival".
ha!
What? Take an economics course before you start spilling your assumptions all over the board!
there are at least hundreds of other buisnesses making as much, if not more money than microsoft.
Hey... did you know that almost ALL of the oil harvested in Alaska the US is NOT USED BY THE US?
Ha... who would have guessed?
And we really aren't 100 percent dependent on oil... we just choose to use the stuff because it's easier than making adjustments to other fuels. Just wait... when we run out of oil it'll only be a year or two before we've made a 90% recovery on other fuels.
Did you know that you can make deisel out of waste plastic? You can. Did you know that you can make deisel out of soybeans? You can. Did you know that many cars could be re-jetted to run on ethanol, which comes from corn? they can.
Re: DAMN M$ to HELL
Oh.. gee... you must be right. I mean... hell... it'll really be worth waiting another 6 months to play a game that I could be playing right now on a console that costs 400 bucks rather than a computer that costs (at least) 1600. Way to go, short bus.
Oh.. gee... you must be right. I mean... hell... it'll really be worth waiting another 6 months to play a game that I could be playing right now on a console that costs 400 bucks rather than a computer that costs (at least) 1600. Way to go, short bus.
Re: Re: DAMN M$ to HELL
Interesting, your location suggests you are in the US but your pricing says Australia.
Xbox is about $200 in the US and $400 in Australia (exchange = $US0.55 to $AU1)
iMacs start at $799 in the US and $1795 in Australia.
Interesting, your location suggests you are in the US but your pricing says Australia.
Xbox is about $200 in the US and $400 in Australia (exchange = $US0.55 to $AU1)
iMacs start at $799 in the US and $1795 in Australia.
Re: Re: Microsoft is assuring that the Xbox will die a quick death
Um, not quite...
A lot of people want to turn them into routers
Um, not quite...
A lot of people want to turn them into routers
Here's the real MS business model
XBox is still in the "grow it until everything else dies" stage. There was a time when MS put real effort into making Office as good as it could be. Mac Word 5.1 was an example of that. Word for Windows 1.0 was, too. And Excel - any version. And PowerPoint. (Never MS Graph!). Then, once they had total market share, they could rely on throwing in tons of useless junk and VisualBasic, the latter so they could have a true monopoly - because a plain Word file is relatively easy to translate, but one with macros is durn near impossible to reproduce on open-source.
Anyhoo... here's some facts.
eweek wrote: "Microsoft plans to spend more than $3 billion over the next
three years on its Office productivity suite and aims to double annual revenue from Office to $20 billion by 2010."
So they make $10 billion per year now, and hey! They're going to INCREASE their investment to $1 billion per year for three years.
So their net profit, assuming no marketing or admin costs (etc.) ... $9 billion per year. Under the INCREASED expense model. I'd be generous and say they spend half of that for marketing, shipping, overhead, etc.
$4.5 billion net revenue per year from one product.
Not bad!
XBox is still in the "grow it until everything else dies" stage. There was a time when MS put real effort into making Office as good as it could be. Mac Word 5.1 was an example of that. Word for Windows 1.0 was, too. And Excel - any version. And PowerPoint. (Never MS Graph!). Then, once they had total market share, they could rely on throwing in tons of useless junk and VisualBasic, the latter so they could have a true monopoly - because a plain Word file is relatively easy to translate, but one with macros is durn near impossible to reproduce on open-source.
Anyhoo... here's some facts.
eweek wrote: "Microsoft plans to spend more than $3 billion over the next
three years on its Office productivity suite and aims to double annual revenue from Office to $20 billion by 2010."
So they make $10 billion per year now, and hey! They're going to INCREASE their investment to $1 billion per year for three years.
So their net profit, assuming no marketing or admin costs (etc.) ... $9 billion per year. Under the INCREASED expense model. I'd be generous and say they spend half of that for marketing, shipping, overhead, etc.
$4.5 billion net revenue per year from one product.
Not bad!
To those of you that were suggesting that the PS2 was already maxed out, there's an interview with a Capcom programmer about Devil May Cry 2 over at Gamespy. Earlier in the thread Devil May Cry was used as an example of some of the best visuals on the PS2, but in the interview the interviewee claims they've doubled the resolution in the sequel.
It's probably safe to assume that the PS2 is still progressing very nicely.
It's probably safe to assume that the PS2 is still progressing very nicely.
NINTENDO
NINTENDO HAS ALWAYS REIGHNED SUPREME
NINTENDO the original was the best of its time
Super Nintendo was not a great improvement but was still beter than Sega
Nintendo 64 kicked ass even better than PS one
Now the cube is here and is way better than X-Box
NINTENDO HAS ALWAYS REIGHNED SUPREME
NINTENDO the original was the best of its time
Super Nintendo was not a great improvement but was still beter than Sega
Nintendo 64 kicked ass even better than PS one
Now the cube is here and is way better than X-Box
Re: NINTENDO
HHhhmmm..... I thought this was a constuctive thread but if this is what it has come to:
SEGA ALWAYS REIGHNED SUPREME
SEGA MASTER SYSTEM 2 the original was the best of its time
MEGA DRIVE was a great improvement and was still beter than Nintendo
Nintendo 64 sucked ass even more than PS one
Now the cube is here and it is still as lagging on technology as all previous releases.
HHhhmmm..... I thought this was a constuctive thread but if this is what it has come to:
SEGA ALWAYS REIGHNED SUPREME
SEGA MASTER SYSTEM 2 the original was the best of its time
MEGA DRIVE was a great improvement and was still beter than Nintendo
Nintendo 64 sucked ass even more than PS one
Now the cube is here and it is still as lagging on technology as all previous releases.
I was talking about poo
Yeah I was ranking them as overall better system and company
Not what is faster or what had this game or how much bits or technology just when they arrived and what peopple liked.
Yeah I was ranking them as overall better system and company
Not what is faster or what had this game or how much bits or technology just when they arrived and what peopple liked.