Nvidia announced Ampere.

[Ulfric]

Per Nvidia Official Announcement

3080 Announced as 'flagship' gaming GPU.

3080: 30 Shader TFLOPS | XX RT TFLOPS | XXX Tensor TFLOPS | 10GB VRAM

Claimed 2X performance of RTX 2080 at same price.



3090 Announced as "BFGPU"

3090: 36 Shader TFLOPS | 69 RT TFLOPS | 285 Tensor TFLOPS | 24GB VRAM

Claimed 8k60FPS. Price unspecified

According to Nvidia's own claim , 3070 performs slightly better than 2080Ti & 3080 is the biggest generational jump providing 2x performance of 2080 at the same price.

Lets see How AMD would counter with Big Navi.

 

[1221320]

Must admit the 3080 looks like a good upgrade to my 1070...

 

[LiE_]

Yea they have a strong package on the 3080.

 

[1221320]

Yea they have a strong package on the 3080.

The price : performance is really surprising, if accurate.

Edit: To clarify, I was expecting the 3080 to be WAY more expensive.

 

[Ulfric]

The price : performance is really surprising, if accurate.

Edit: To clarify, I was expecting the 3080 to be WAY more expensive.

I have a hunch that Nvidia might be expecting some competition from AMD. That's why they kept the price this low. We all will have to wait & see.

 

[Puonti]

3090 Announced as "BFGPU"

3090: 36 Shader TFLOPS | 69 RT TFLOPS | 285 Tensor TFLOPS | 24GB VRAM

Claimed 8k60FPS. Price unspecified

Price starting at $1499 (before taxes I imagine). It was listed at 35:22 in the reveal stream.

 

[soulreaver99]

Most likely will be picking up the 3070. Great value at $499 and outperforms and costs less than that 2080ti

 

[icanhazmac]

My 970 is really looking old, might be time.

 

[GrumpyCoder]

Looks good on paper. Let’s wait for some real benchmarks. The best thing about this is probably the price in comparison to the last generation.

Also curious about the upcoming AMD cards and how they will compare.

 

[Pangalactic]

Looks good on paper. Let’s wait for some real benchmarks. The best thing about this is probably the price in comparison to the last generation.

Also curious about the upcoming AMD cards and how they will compare.

That's a good question. Team red is really crushing it with their CPU's, but the GPU's - especially for gaming - so far have been mediocre

 

[1221320]

Most likely will be picking up the 3070. Great value at $499 and outperforms and costs less than that 2080ti

Hmm, maybe that's the best option for me to upgrade from a 1070. £469 here in the UK. I only play WoW, after all

 

[LiE_]

3070 is more than enough for the majority of people, it's the same performance as a 2080 Ti!

 

[clangers23]

3070 is more than enough for the majority of people, it's the same performance as a 2080 Ti!

Agreed, will it run in an NZXT H1 I ask myself? It's as if Nvidia have readjusted post the RTX 2000 series and brought prices and performance back into alignment. Apparently the reason the RTX 2000 series was so overpriced was because the yield for them was so poor they knew they wouldn't sell as many e.g only a very modest step up from the 1080ti.
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[LiE_]

will it run in an NZXT H1 I ask myself

That's a good question, especially when we look at the FE cooler design.

With this design it would be pulling cool air from inside the case which isn't ideal. The good news is that the hot air would vent out the bottom and side panel and no longer hit the glass like with standard cooler design.

Edit:
Thinking about it more, this FE cooler won't work in most SSF cases that use a sandwich layout. The side of the GPU where the cool air is pushed/pulled would be up against the motherboard tray with little to no room to get air.

 

[1221320]

That's a good question, especially when we look at the FE cooler design.

With this design it would be pulling cool air from inside the case which isn't ideal. The good news is that the hot air would vent out the bottom and side panel and no longer hit the glass like with standard cooler design.

Edit:
Thinking about it more, this FE cooler won't work in most SSF cases that use a sandwich layout. The side of the GPU where the cool air is pushed/pulled would be up against the motherboard tray with little to no room to get air.

Yeah it does seem to be a different FE air system with the 3070. I have one PC with a FE 1070, and it has one open fan and the cowl on one side, and the circuit board on the bottom. It is designed to suck air in through the case and through the fan, then blows it out the back (hence the term "blower" GPU). This does seem to have an extra exhaust out through the other side, which, as you say, would be blowing straight onto the motherboard or whatever it is in the H1 that is up against the card.

 

[GrumpyCoder]

Team red is really crushing it with their CPU's, but the GPU's - especially for gaming - so far have been mediocre

Currently AMD is great when it comes to price and power consumption. Performance is really mixed. Some things better than Intel, some things worse. GPU depends on the application. For games, I don't think there's much difference in comparison to Nvidia. AMD and Nvidia both have no GPU that allows 4k gaming with constant >60fps, no drops. So that leaves 1080p or 1440p and here it really doesn't matter much if it's at 70fps or 90fps. So I'd say, AMD cards are "good enough" for games. This will probably change now with the 3k series and whatever AMD will release, which will most likely allow 4k60 games without drops.

For HPC and research, it's not so much performance and money, it's about available software tools/libraries. Nvidia shines here, nothing to show from AMD here.

For my personal private work, in addition to my Macs, I also have a "normal PC" under my desk at home which needs an upgrade. So I'll wait for AMD and then make a decision what to get. Everything I've seen from Nvidia is very tempting though. Professionally, there's no question, I'm running 24c Xeon and RTX8000 in a Dell box under the desk in the office.

 

[benshive]

Pretty crazy that the 3070 is $499 and outperforms the 2080ti. If the claim holds up when people get their hands on the cards that's an incredibly impressive performance jump for one generation. Thinking of seeing how much I could sell my RX 5700 XT for and getting one.

 

[GrumpyCoder]

This does seem to have an extra exhaust out through the other side, which, as you say, would be blowing straight onto the motherboard or whatever it is in the H1 that is up against the card.

I guess it wouldn't be much of an issue with a water-cooled CPU.

 

[Erehy Dobon]

Agreed, will it run in an NZXT H1 I ask myself? It's as if Nvidia have readjusted post the RTX 2000 series and brought prices and performance back into alignment. Apparently the reason the RTX 2000 series was so overpriced was because the yield for them was so poor they knew they wouldn't sell as many e.g only a very modest step up from the 1080ti.
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The 3070 will run fine in the NZXT H1. I have the 2070 SUPER (Nvidia reference card) in my H1 case and the 3070 draws only 5 watts more than the 2070 SUPER.

This is a superb compact case for Ultra 1440p gaming.

Stick in a 65W TDP CPU (I have a Ryzen 7 3700X) and swap out the NZXT Aer P14 fan with a Noctua NF-A14 PWM chroma.Black.swap and their low-noise adapter. The latter knocks down RPM, airflow, noise, static pressure by about 20%. The fan will top out around 1100 RPM which is enough to keep the maxxed out non-overclocked CPU below 85 °C. The 140mm radiator is the ideal size for a 65W TDP CPU.

It's so quiet I just run the fan at maximum speed before I fire up a game and then switch back to a normal fan profile after I'm done gaming.

I will probably wait until next summer for the 3070 SUPER refresh assuming it comes with 16GB of memory.

 

[1221320]

The 3070 will run fine in the NZXT H1. I have the 2070 SUPER (Nvidia reference card) in my H1 case and the 3070 draws only 5 watts more than the 2070 SUPER.

This is a superb compact case for Ultra 1440p gaming.

Stick in a 65W TDP CPU (I have a Ryzen 7 3700X) and swap out the NZXT Aer P14 fan with a Noctua NF-A14 PWM chroma.Black.swap and their low-noise adapter. The latter knocks down RPM, airflow, noise, static pressure by about 20%. The fan will top out around 1100 RPM which is enough to keep the maxxed out non-overclocked CPU below 85 °C. The 140mm radiator is the ideal size for a 65W TDP CPU.

It's so quiet I just run the fan at maximum speed before I fire up a game and then switch back to a normal fan profile after I'm done gaming.

I will probably wait until next summer for the 3070 SUPER refresh assuming it comes with 16GB of memory.

Is the 2070 airflow the same as the 3070? Because the 1070 is certainly different.

 

[Erehy Dobon]

Is the 2070 airflow the same as the 3070? Because the 1070 is certainly different.

I have no idea since the 3070 was revealed only yesterday and the product isn’t shipping yet.

Both the 2070 and 3070 reference cards have two fans each (one for the GPU, the other for the VRM and VRAM). It seems like the airflow would be similar but I am not a mechanical engineer.

The H1 case has a steel bulkhead between the upper part of GPU bay and the main CPU bay about where the 3070’s back exhaust vent appears. There’s an open hole at the bottom of the H1 GPU bay. The clearance between the backside of the graphics card and the bulkhead is about 1 cm. The H1 also features the standard cutout for mini-ITX motherboards.

All that said, I doubt if it makes that much of a difference. These cards are designed to operate in a very wide range of conditions, including data center and HPC applications. The 3070 is specifically a mainstream consumer graphics card.

Edit:

Unsurprisingly, Nvidia has confirmed to an inquirer that no special case requirements exist for the 3080:

"iCinn – Any idea if the dual airflow design is going to be messed up for inverted cases? More than previous designs? Seems like it would blow it down on the CPU. But the CPU cooler would still blow it out the case. Maybe it’s not so bad.

Second question. 10x quieter than the Titan for the 3090 is more or less quieter than a 2080 Super (Evga ultra fx for example)?

[Qi Lin] u/iCinn The new flow through cooling design will work great as long as chassis fans are configured to bring fresh air to the GPU, and then move the air that flows through the GPU out of the chassis. It does not matter if the chassis is inverted.

The Founders Edition RTX 3090 is quieter than both the Titan RTX and the Founders Edition RTX 2080 Super. We haven’t tested it against specific partner designs, but I think you’ll be impressed with what you hear… or rather, don’t hear. "

Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-provides-further-details-on-geforce-rtx-30-series (VideoCardz)

Presumably, there are no special requirements for the 3070. It's a regular GPU.

It appears Nvidia actually thought about how people are going to be using this.

 

[xraydoc]

I have the 2070 SUPER (Nvidia reference card) in my H1 case and the 3070 draws only 5 watts more than the 2070 SUPER.

Is that right? Hmm. I had figured it would draw way more. Hmmmmm....!

Nope -- better put that out of my head. My 2070 Super is only just under 6 months old. My wife will kill me.

 

[jrichards1408]

Looks good