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Carrier Stadium with 70,000 + people
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The carrier needs to upgrade their base stations.
Normal. Cell provider capacity is governed mostly by the laws of physics. There are spectrum resources, sector resources on the radio, capacity resources for the DAS, backhaul capacity and of course prioritization of data traffic with your fellow users.
@BeatCrazy provide excellent answer. Google search “cellular service Super Bowl 2023” and you will quickly understand answer not so straight forward or simple.
I'm curious what this means "highest priority plan on provider", since I have never heard this plan...No service of any kind with any provider sometimesMostly SOS
Every now and then would get 5g+, 5g or 4g lte
Is this normal ?
Have a iPhone 14 Pro Max on the highest priority plans on providers.
are you thinking you have higher priority for cell service over another customer of the same provider, or is this just more service related to "customer service."!?!
Only the carrier can tell you
The easy gripe is always 'just add more resources'!
It's not that simple. All of those constraints I listed above may be limited in a way that no amount of money or time can overcome. Think of it like trying to build a super highway through a mountain pass. You can throw a double-decker road through there, but there are still limitations. Some things can be overcome with certain technology capabilities (spectrum, slicing and associated network core management, etc.) , but not all.
A pure 5G SA network can handle 1 million connections per square km. That's much smaller than the footprint of a stadium. It comes down to the carrier and how they've implemented it.
You look at the Beijing National Stadium, they can handle over 90,000 spectators no problem using 5G.
All carriers have different data priorities for cellular traffic. Typically, wireless home internet and MVNOs get the lowest prioritization during periods of congestion. The highest tier plans have more of their data pushed when things get congested.
QoS Class Identifier - Wikipedia
Maybe IoT devices under specific laboratory circumstances. But if you think 5G SA can handle 1M people live-streaming Facebook, you obviously don't work in the cellular industry
Maybe IoT devices under specific laboratory circumstances. But if you think 5G SA can handle 1M people live-streaming Facebook, you obviously don't work in the cellular industry
No streaming, maybe just plain calls. But users definitely won't see "SOS"
Except @max2 did. Which means there are other limitations, as I related.No streaming, maybe just plain calls. But users definitely won't see "SOS"
And voice calls in particular can be very difficult to maintain in congested network situations.
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Was @max2 on a pure 5G SA network? Was the stadium littered with mobile base stations? All I'm saying is 70,000 users is easily achievable. But I agree there are other limitations., particularly with carrier infrastructure.
Ok... but then it would be interesting that with the "highest priority" there is nothing... although I do highly doubt that anyone with the same provider would be able to make a call with a higher plan over someone with a lower plan.All carriers have different data priorities for cellular traffic. Typically, wireless home internet and MVNOs get the lowest prioritization during periods of congestion. The highest tier plans have more of their data pushed when things get congested.
QoS Class Identifier - Wikipedia
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I guess what I am really curious about is why it would matter to have service when you are in a stadium to see a act or sports event?
SOS probably means the part of stadium you were didn’t have good strength of signal. It used to be terrible with 3G and 4 G back in the day for data. With 5G, it is functional intermittently.
Based on the info that the OP shared, we can assume the answer to those questions is a 'no'. And I suppose anything is 'easily achievable' if you throw hundreds of millions of dollar at it.
You might be surprised.
Have you been to any big concerts lately? Live-streaming the experience to followers (or whoever) seems to be a popular activity, especially with the <30 crowd.
Ok, this is funny..... to immediately assume anything about me. But I think the "live streaming" is not just obnoxious (putting your cell in front of someone else's face) but also useless since you are going to be one of many that showed the exact same stuff. So no, I really do not understand needing service at a venue where someone profesional is probably recording it a lot better...Based on the info that the OP shared, we can assume the answer to those questions is a 'no'. And I suppose anything is 'easily achievable' if you throw hundreds of millions of dollar at it.
You might be surprised.
Have you been to any big concerts lately? Live-streaming the experience to followers (or whoever) seems to be a popular activity, especially with the <30 crowd.
I understand that people feel the need to show that they were there but a few photos takes care of that problem (if you feel that is a problem).
I actually find it really interesting that most, I guess, <30 crowd expects cell service everywhere.... That really is the most surprising thing to me.
I recently attended an event that had over 75,000 people at it and had no issues whatsoever with my iPhone 13 picking up 5g with occasional fallback to 4g services from my carrier. The data connection was quite good to load webpages, even stream a sport match while I was waiting for the event to kickoff as well as messaging use cases. I have been to the same stadium previously with far fewer people when I was on a different mobile network and had no usable signal.
Not normal.
I work at concessions at a couple of stadiums pretty often, and I never get this kind of performance.
I get 5GUW
I work at concessions at a couple of stadiums pretty often, and I never get this kind of performance.
I get 5GUW
At my last concert the couple in front of me, probably in their 40s, were shooting with two devices each (smartphone for video and mirrorless camera for stills) held above their heads. It drove me crazy.
As for the actual topic. Things can vary a lot depending on the local cellular infrastructure available. I’ve been to events with only a few thousand people where the networks were completely overloaded. And on other occasions more than 100 thousand people didn’t bring them down.
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Sounds like every experience ever at the Virginia Tech home games. Man, it blows.No service of any kind with any provider sometimes
Every now and then would get 5g+, 5g or 4g lte
Is this normal ?
Have a iPhone 14 Pro Max on the highest priority plans on providers.
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This happens at my gym every dayNo service of any kind with any provider sometimes
Every now and then would get 5g+, 5g or 4g lte
Is this normal ?
Have a iPhone 14 Pro Max on the highest priority plans on providers.