iPhone SE (2016) Stop saying SE is a budget phone!

[thadoggfather]

I bought this phone along with an iPad mini 5 for about the price of an 11 with tax here, so definitely decently priced in Canada. Not Apple’s fault that our dollar sucks and will probably get even worse going forward.

SE2+Mini5 is the power combo to have rn imo

Love this pair.

Still using my 2017 12.9 with ASK permanently attached for extended video use though..

 

[Kpfe1f]

SE2+Mini5 is the power combo to have rn imo

Love this pair.

Still using my 2017 12.9 with ASK permanently attached for extended video use though..

Yeah I actually got the idea from joining this forum. Both are supposed to arrive this afternoon, so pumped.

 

[26139]

Yeah but US is not a planet... something many Americans should be reminded. You know there’s something called earth, with over 100 countries... so if it’s budget in US it does not mean it’s a budget phone all around. It means it’s budget in US ONLY. As far as I know Apple sells iPhones all over the world; so calling it budget, without specifics, is just marketing bull... that pleases... Americans...

Apple is a U.S. company. Macrumors is U.S. based. Most of Apple's marketing push is...U.S. based.

 

[Stephen.R]

as of today $399US is 556$ CA... NOT 599$. it has been more or less so for months, even years. That’s near over 60$, with taxes, that Apple should charge considering exchange rates. So since you understand so much exchange rates...

Ok, so I'm just going to use the rates Spotlight shows me, which I believe are Yahoo, but it's close enough.

Right now it says 399USD is 563.04CAD. And they sell it for.. 599CAD? So it's a ~$36CAD (or.. $43CAD using your rate... not sure where "near over $60" comes from), 6.4% increase.

You're looking at a single-digit % difference from FX. A little over a month ago $399USD was $578CAD, but back in January it was $518CAD. You can't realistically expect their prices to constantly follow FX rates exactly.

 

[JPack]

The correct answer is exchange rate.

iPhone SE: 599 CAD = USD 430
MacBook Air: 1299 CAD = 933 USD

MacBook Air for example, was priced before the collapse of the CAD and now Apple is taking a hit.

CAD relies on natural resources and right now, those resources are cheap.

 

[reggavegga]

Yeah but US is not a planet... something many Americans should be reminded. You know there’s something called earth, with over 100 countries... so if it’s budget in US it does not mean it’s a budget phone all around. It means it’s budget in US ONLY. As far as I know Apple sells iPhones all over the world; so calling it budget, without specifics, is just marketing bull... that pleases... Americans...

The U.S. does not set the rate of what other countries currency rates are ..It is what the dollar is worth in your country.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The U.S. does not set the rate of what other countries currency rates are ..It is what the dollar is worth in your country.

I think you missed the point that poster was making. The exchange rate for the dollar simply means that the price is cheaper in some countries and not others. In the US it could be referred to as a budget device but elsewhere it could be much more expensive. Sure it’s not Apples or America’s fault, but this perception of ‘budget’ is very much determined by regional currencies. It’s £429 in the UK which is quite cheap for an iPhone, but if I was after a budget device, there’s many more cheaper alternatives.

 

[naturalstar]

Everyone has a budget. It’s a matter of the size and scale of their budget.

I don’t believe most people mean something derogatory when they call the SE a budget phone. It’s just a budget phone when you compare it the phones in the current line up of Apple iPhones.

Is this something to really be outraged about?

 

[freeagent]

When you are dealing with Apple fanatics, you could be surprised.

 

[NickName99]

I bought this phone along with an iPad mini 5 for about the price of an 11 with tax here, so definitely decently priced in Canada. Not Apple’s fault that our dollar sucks and will probably get even worse going forward.

I’ve got an iPad Mini 2019 and an SE2. Perfect pair!

I love that you can get the really nice Apple leather cases for the SE2, unlike the 11. The 7/8 cases fit the SE2 perfectly.

I picked up a gorgeous leather case for my iPad Mini here:https://lusciousleatherny.com/produ...leather-tablet-sleeve-travel-mini-ipad-clutch

 

[bpeeps]

Yeah but US is not a planet... something many Americans should be reminded. You know there’s something called earth, with over 100 countries... so if it’s budget in US it does not mean it’s a budget phone all around. It means it’s budget in US ONLY. As far as I know Apple sells iPhones all over the world; so calling it budget, without specifics, is just marketing bull... that pleases... Americans...

When you don't know how exchange rates work and the value of your country's dollar.
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This is true.

No one who sees you holding a phone with the Apple logo on the back is going to say "oh, so you could only afford a budget phone, then?" ?

I'm going to think that. Then I'm going to point and laugh at the OP because they can't even afford a budget iPhone. This post is ridiculous.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I'm going to think that. Then I'm going to point and laugh at the OP because they can't even afford a budget iPhone. This post is ridiculous.

You’d really do that or just mocking the kids that would?

 

[Ladybug]

Is it a budget phone or just a really good deal? I guess it just depends on who you ask. Enjoy your phones everyone.

I remember people making fun of the iPhone 8 too way back when. Didn’t stop me from buying one. Excellent phone, and I saved a few dollars too.

 

[Elitegate]

He said portrait mode on the FaceTime camera, which it does not have. But who cares for $399 lol

It has the latest Portrait Mode. Portrait Mode on front + back, all 6 different Lightning Effects (including High-Key Mono), and Advanced Bokeh, and QuickTake, and Stereo recording. The camera is top notch. All powered by the A13
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Yeah but as op would say, you’re not a planet. It’s not a budget phone in Montreal, so it is not a budget phone period.

But you also need to blame your country for that. Taxiation isn't Apple's fault. Also for the US - 399$ is the price with no Sales Tax included

 

[StarShot]

It’s starts at $399 in the US, which very much makes it a budget phone.

Apple this morning announced its highly anticipated iPhone SE, available in 64GB, 128GB and 256GB models in black, white and (PRODUCT)RED starting at $399 USD and $599 CAD in Canada. Apple Canada says the iPhone SE can cost $349 (CAD) with trade-in from apple.com, in the Apple Store app and Apple Stores.

That works out to $419 US on my calculator for the CA 64 GB model. Are you complaining about the price of the 128 GB model or the 256 GB model.

 

[mattopotamus]

Apple this morning announced its highly anticipated iPhone SE, available in 64GB, 128GB and 256GB models in black, white and (PRODUCT)RED starting at $399 USD and $599 CAD in Canada. Apple Canada says the iPhone SE can cost $349 (CAD) with trade-in from apple.com, in the Apple Store app and Apple Stores.

That works out to $419 US on my calculator for the CA 64 GB model. Are you complaining about the price of the 128 GB model or the 256 GB model.

Think you quoted the wrong person. No complaints here.

 

[oilers780]

I wonder what's wrong with the phrase "budget phone?" If anything, the SE could be considered like a 2020 Acura ILX. The hardware could be considered slightly older (ILX is basically based off an older version of the Civic body), but it still carries the Acura brand name behind it and may have some modern features (Apple CarPlay or Android Auto w/ a touchscreen head unit). In this case, the iPhone SE has the slightly older design, carries the Apple brand name, and has some modern features (water resistance, wireless charging, etc).

Do people still buy the "budget Acura?" Sure. If they didn't, then the 2020 ILX wouldn't exist today.

 

[rican]

Stop telling people what to do or say OP.

 

[mcdj]

Yeah guys! Stop saying things about a telephone!

 

[akash.nu]

Yeah guys! Stop saying things about a telephone!

Smartphone.

 

[26139]

I doubt the "most" part of that in terms of the general populace.

On MacRumors, sure. I expect this forum has a disproportionately high percentage of well-heeled members.

It's the budget phone in Apple's lineup.
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Can someone explain to me why people care that some on a tech forum would refer to the SE2 as a budget iPhone? Does it really matter?

‘Oh my god look, they’ve got a budget iPhone hahaha’ - says no one ever away from Mac Rumours.

Get used to the SE2, you’re going to see lots of these phones about, especially in the business and corporate environments. It’s a reasonably priced smartphone that offers the same experience as any other iPhone currently on the market. It just doesn’t cost as much. The end.

People pick fights on here for the strangest reasons.

 

[thadoggfather]

it is a budget phone.


its a damn good one though and doesn't feel like it since its an updated 2017 flagship.

 

[rui no onna]

It's the budget phone in Apple's lineup.

It's the budget iPhone, I agree.

However, unless one can get it at discounted pricing (e.g. $199 Walmart deal), the iPhone SE is more of a mid-ranger in terms of the broader smartphone market.

 

[26139]

It's the budget iPhone, I agree.

However, unless one can get it at discounted pricing (e.g. $199 Walmart deal), the iPhone SE is more of a mid-ranger in terms of the broader smartphone market.

Okay. Curious as to why we're having this sort of discussion on an Apple forum, but aight.

 

[Longkeg]

I thought this thread had been put to bed over a month ago. Do we really want to keep beating this dead horse?