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TikTok Could Face US Ban Unless Chinese Owners Sell Stake
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Given the economic contributions of those two, I think that would be called shooting yourself in the foot if you’re China.
I would wager these were more important reasons for America's center-right government to want to ban it:
1. Anyone who actually uses TikTok realises a lot of progressive and left-leaning political discourse happens there; the TikTok audience in general skews to the left. America doesn't like that we share real information and organise on a platform they haven't got their grubby little hands in.
2. TikTok is crushing its US-based competition. Not just social networks, like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, et al, but one politician recently let slip that TikTok users average more time per day than they watch TV networks, too. Guess how many of these companies - US-based social networks and media companies - spend a small fortune lobbying the US government to do their bidding?
If data privacy is the central concern, there are plenty of bad actors that call the US home. Knuckle down on all of them equally.
1. Anyone who actually uses TikTok realises a lot of progressive and left-leaning political discourse happens there; the TikTok audience in general skews to the left. America doesn't like that we share real information and organise on a platform they haven't got their grubby little hands in.
2. TikTok is crushing its US-based competition. Not just social networks, like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, et al, but one politician recently let slip that TikTok users average more time per day than they watch TV networks, too. Guess how many of these companies - US-based social networks and media companies - spend a small fortune lobbying the US government to do their bidding?
If data privacy is the central concern, there are plenty of bad actors that call the US home. Knuckle down on all of them equally.
This seems like an overreaction. There is zero evidence of spying on people through TikTok. At best, Tik Tok might skew the algorithm away from criticism of China. I’m pretty sure China never asked for that, but Chinese companies sometimes do that instinctively since the communist party can ruin their business if they get on their bad side.
Where is your evidence that there isn't any evidence
My nephew is totally addicted. He's 15 and recently visited me. He was on TikTok 24/7. I tried to watch a movie with him and throughout the movie he was still watching TikTok with one earbud for TikTok and the other ear for the movie. I really couldn't believe it. He stayed with me for a week and the phone was in his hand the entire time. I was pretty horrified.
I don't think it takes a certain kind of brain to become addicted. My nephew showed me a few videos and personally I found them boring, but that's because I'm an adult and I grew up in a world of long form content, stories with a beginning, middle, and end. I grew up with entertainment that required the viewer/reader to invest time in a story, to let it develop, to let characters develop, etc.
TikTok is the opposite of that. Kids growing up on TikTok have no appreciation for story. They're bored by dialogue. I saw that with my nephew. When we were watching the movie, I'd look over and see him absorbed in some stupid TikTok video, missing an essential part of the film, and I'd tell him to pay attention and he'd say "it's boring". Their brains are being wired to only want the payoff, the excitement, action, etc. TikTok (and other social media) is basically wiring their brains to crave constant stimulation and excitement. It's no wonder the whole generation is such a mess, heavily medicated, diagnosed with all sorts of mental disorders, etc. Any parent who gives his or her kid a smartphone with no restrictions or oversight might as well give them a loaded gun.
Does anyone even send private messages in TikTok? I mean if China just wanted public data they could literally scrape it off any social network.
Not sure if that’s TikTok’s fault. Without TikTok, these evildoers would’ve simply used other communication means.So much youth involved crime is happening these days and often Tik Tok has either been the motivator based on some challenge or the kids end up meeting on the platform itself and commit group minded crimes.
The KIA/Hyundai theft challenge is and was a prime example.
TikTok challenge spurs rise in thefts of Kia, Hyundai cars
A dangerous challenge spreading on TikTok has thieves targeting certain makes and models of 2010-2021 Kia and Hyundai vehicles.www.cnbc.com
We also had an incident here in Toronto, Canada where a group of girls met on Tik Tok initially and when they met on person they ended up killing an unhoused 55 year old man over a bottle of booze he had that they wanted to steal from a friend of his. He stepped up to defend his friend and was killed in the swarming. They even posted a video of the attack on TikTik themselves.
Ken Lee identified as victim of alleged stabbing attack by 8 teen girls in Toronto
The homeless man who died following an alleged swarming-style stabbing by a group of teenage girls last month has been identified by police.beta.ctvnews.ca
It’s just a super unregulated environment that even parents can’t seem to get control over.
I won’t go further as I don’t want to be suspended 🤐
Right on the money. And as for your last sentence, the suicide rate among teens (in the US) is skyrocketing.
While I'm older than that and I don't use TikTok, even I sometimes find myself having difficulty paying attention to a film or a book I'm reading without stopping to grab my phone and check social media or forums or things like that regularly (or find myself zoning out while spending time with people if I haven't looked at my phone in a while). Phones and the apps we use on them and the sites we access are designed to be addictive, and kids are most susceptible to it. It absolutely is like a drug. And "short-form content", which is increasingly popular, best provides that "dopamine hit".
Their algorithm makes these kinds of things more popular...I don't know that's not their fault. It makes a lot things that shouldn't be at the top of the algorithm so, and that's concerning.
Not sure what you can say that can get you suspended but clearly its not good.
If there wasn't a TikTok, youth involved crime would be on Snapchat and other platforms. Oh, wait, they already are.
Flash-Mob Thefts Planned on Snapchat and Other Apps, Police Say
Suspects in recent crimes at Nordstrom, Best Buy and Louis Vuitton stores often don’t know each other, making investigations difficult.
www.wsj.com
And you'd find those dumb challenges posted on other social media platforms (Twitter, YouTube) as well. The Tide Pods challenge started before TikTok became a thing; One of the early places it was talked about was on Tumblr.
Tide Pods are being mentioned every 6 seconds on social media
The social media furor comes even as corporate parent P&G tries to temper down enthusiasm.
The black out challenge goes all the way back to 2007 or 2008.
People who think banning TikTok will stop kids from being stupid and doing stupid things are delusional.
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Algorithm only follows what the user is searching and paying attention to. Simply go to YouTube or IG, and if you start searching and consuming nonsense contents, you’ll get more of those. In the end, the intention of doing bad things and lack of morals are already within those evildoers. Banning TikTok won’t change them.
If there wasn't a TikTok, youth involved crime would be on Snapchat and other platforms. Oh, wait, they already are.
Flash-Mob Thefts Planned on Snapchat and Other Apps, Police Say
Suspects in recent crimes at Nordstrom, Best Buy and Louis Vuitton stores often don’t know each other, making investigations difficult.
And you'd find those dumb challenges posted on other social media platforms (Twitter, YouTube) as well. The Tide Pods challenge started before TikTok became a thing; One of the early places it was talked about was on Tumblr.
Tide Pods are being mentioned every 6 seconds on social media
The social media furor comes even as corporate parent P&G tries to temper down enthusiasm.
The black out challenge goes all the way back to 2007 or 2008.
People who think banning TikTok will stop kids from being stupid and doing stupid things are delusional.
All kids go through a young and stupid phase.
The ones that don't mature, the ones that don't grow out of it.... are the ones we should be concerned about.
How come the version of TikTok for Westerners is filled with society destroying garbage, but the TikTok in China is time limited and contains only "healthy" videos?
The CCP is doing all it can in it's last breath before it's imminent collapse (10 years max) to try to harm free nations. Diversify out of China and put your money to work in countries with morals.
The CCP is doing all it can in it's last breath before it's imminent collapse (10 years max) to try to harm free nations. Diversify out of China and put your money to work in countries with morals.
This should be fun.
It seems like a good opportunity for a start-up. Call it 'Ticktok China free'. It's not like it's a ....anything.
The West is in such a deep sleep. Cut them off and waking up would be something. Probably like one of those Star Trek episodes. 'Peace in Landru'
Ok, much worse....
It seems like a good opportunity for a start-up. Call it 'Ticktok China free'. It's not like it's a ....anything.
The West is in such a deep sleep. Cut them off and waking up would be something. Probably like one of those Star Trek episodes. 'Peace in Landru'
Ok, much worse....
Exactly. I just don't see how banning TikTok stops them from going through that phase on another social media platform. TikTok just happens to be the easy target because of its popularity with the kids today.
If/when something else comes along, we'll be blaming XYZ for corrupting our youth.
There are plenty of "healthy" videos on TikTok if you look for them. Maybe the problem is you're not looking for them?
Health videos on TikTok | TikTok Browse
Interested in how others stay physically, emotionally, and mentally healthy? Watch health videos on TikTok.
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Health and wellness on TikTok
As the new year begins, it's no surprise people are looking to better their health, cut out unhealthy habits, and spend time on their overall wellbeing. Luckily, the TikTok community is full of nutrit
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If it's the bad videos that are worrying those in Washington, then they can require TikTok to remove those harmful videos from their platform like how China does on Douyin, but then you have the possible issue of the U.S. govt infringing on peoples 1st Amendment (Free Speech) rights. Since China doesn't offer any free speech rights, they can dictate what can and cannot be on their country's social media platforms.
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People keep talking about protecting teens and the content, which is irrelevant to why they want it sold or banned. It’s about the data and the Chinese government having access to it. Theoretically if TikTok is sold to an American company then it would just continue as is. It’s not about the content of the platform itself.
American social media companies collect data as well but the difference is that the US government is the one who can access that data if they want to rather than the Chinese.
Also isn’t Meta and YouTube banned and/or restricted in China? I don’t see the big reason for outcry over the US wanting to do the same to a Chinese social media company.
American social media companies collect data as well but the difference is that the US government is the one who can access that data if they want to rather than the Chinese.
Also isn’t Meta and YouTube banned and/or restricted in China? I don’t see the big reason for outcry over the US wanting to do the same to a Chinese social media company.
Yes, but in the media's defense, they had an agenda to push. A 97% negative coverage achievement doesn't maintain itself.
Because its installed-on hundreds of millions of devices and is Chinese based.
While I do recall some product out of china that had spyware baked into - I believe it was components for 5G towers - it was caught immediately and was software driven. Lenovo is using the same components as everyone else, and it's rather hard to use hardware to spy - it's software that is an urgent concern.
TikTok gets permissions to access all sorts of data on your device - it could easily be sending anything it wants to. The Chinese government uses spyware to track all of their citizens and are pros at it.
Yeah.... but that orange administration didn't capture a spy balloon either. And there has been a lot of escalating factors that are data/fact driven .... the orange administration has none of that going on. China has also been busted attempting to spy on other countries in the past year. Response based on evidence is 1000% different.