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john123

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OK, but...

OK, sure...if all you're talking about is a couple of Photoshop filters here and there, then sure, the difference between an iMac and the G4 isn't terribly important. Of course, if you are playing games, you'll detect a night-and-day difference between the dated ATI board in the iMac and the NVIDIA cards in G4s.

But the bigger issue for the graphic design people is monitor size. If you have a great computer to work on at school/work, then sure, you can do most of your work there. If not, you will be extraordinarily irritated with that 15" CRT that comes with the iMac. People say the iMac needs an LCD screen; I say that we would have been better off with the rumors that have been around for eons having to do with the iMac getting a bigger (17") screen....and, of course, if the display dies on your iMac, you are SOL as one post earlier suggested.

The work I do involves lots of programming with lots of iterations....I literally leave computers running for hours and come back to them. For me, being able to shave a couple *hours* off of the processing time is very, very nice -- and worth the extra money.

In the grand scheme of things, if you think about it, you'll spend hundreds of hours on your computer (if not thousands)....take the amount extra you'll be spending, and divide it by 500, a conservative estimate of how many hours you'll spend at your Mac, it's a pretty tiny ratio.....
 

Kela

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May 12, 2001
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BUY NEITHER!!!!!

Look for a short term investment buy a low end imac which is good enough but please. NEXT YEAR February the G5 should debut. NOW THAT IS AN INVESTMENT WORTH WAITING FOR. GO FOR IT!!! The g5 is the future.

- clay court specialist
 

john123

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Re: BUY NEITHER!!!!!

Originally posted by Kela
NEXT YEAR February the G5 should debut. NOW THAT IS AN INVESTMENT WORTH WAITING FOR.

Not sure who told you that information, seeing as there is a lot of testing and development left to go.

But anyway, since you haven't seen any benchmarks on the at-the-moment-experimental G5 chip, you really can't comment on its performance. In fact, when machines first debut with it, you may see some programs (many programs?) actually run faster because they use the G4's AltiVec capabilities....the G5 is rumored to have a similar system but perhaps not the same.
 

Kela

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Yeah but...

Yeah but the G5 will be better than the G4 or? I mean, I doubt apple will make a better transition than the logically challenged scientists at Intel. (the p4 is worse than the p3).
 

john123

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Re: Yeah but...

Originally posted by Kela
Yeah but the G5 will be better than the G4 or? I mean, I doubt apple will make a better transition than the logically challenged scientists at Intel. (the p4 is worse than the p3).

Should be, eventually...but if I'm in need of a computer now, it's smarter to buy the G4 rather than wait and hope (and probably wait some more) for an as-of-now G5 that might not be so spiffy when it's first introduced (which I think will be later than February).
 

igordi

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Jul 14, 2001
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monitor size

I forgot to mention this before because I tend to ramble, but as far as monitor size goes I agree that you can't compare to a 21" when doing design and layout but you can do small things to make it more bearable on your iMac. First, you can collapse your palletes or combine them into groups, but better is to learn all the commands. Believe me when I say that this will be an invaluable tool in the future. My last job was in high-end color correction of stock photography and they wouldn't even let me open pallettes so I had to learn the million and a half commands but it cut my time in half. Again, I'm only talking about the big 3 programs, it still depends what you're doing I guess and still just my own opinion and experience.
 

igordi

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Jul 14, 2001
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By the way...

speaking of monitor size. I have to say that I'mnot really getting into OSX like I thought I would but it's mostly because of my monitor. In OS9 I can put the highest resolution on the screen and the icons and pallettes are small enough that I still have some alright real estate. With OSX though, the icons seem huge even at the highest res. Any suggestions on maybe scaling them down or something. I've scaled down the dock but what about the rest? This one does bother me.
 

evildead

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Jun 18, 2001
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Re: By the way...

Originally posted by igordi
speaking of monitor size. I have to say that I'mnot really getting into OSX like ...... OSX though, the icons seem huge even at the highest res. Any suggestions on maybe scaling them down or something. I've scaled down the dock but what about the rest? This one does bother me.


You can change the size of the icons. I think its in the preferences in the dock. The switch deal. Its one of the first things I did when I loaded 10.00 on one of my Macs at work as a tester before I loaded it at home. I am still waiting to load it at home....I ordered a new Qicksilver.
 

MrMacMan

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Jul 4, 2001
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G5? 17" imac's?

G5 wouldn't be coming Feb. Apple will Super Rev the G4 to A ghz b4 going to the G5. And info says it wouldn't be ready. It is coming, just not as soon. And we would all like the idea of 17" imac's so make 'em.
Hey how about this.
500 Mhz imac 15"
600 Mhz imac 17"
700 Mhz imac 17"
Thay sound's good. Of coarse the imac case would have to be different. The screen would leave extra empty room. And their is already room in my imac that I would like to do away with.
 
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