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laz232

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I would like to have the ESC and Fn keys align as per pre-touchbar models (e.g. about 1cm further left). How?

Cannot fathom UI to BetterTouchTool and don't have the time (due to work commitments) to delve deeply into this.

NB have done a search on Google, but unable to find anyone with the same issue, hence no solutions. Strange that Apple did not consider this to be an issue with their $%"# useless TB...
 

537635

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Remap caps-lock to ESC. Best solution in my opinion.
Been doing it for almost two years. For quick key access Touchbar sucks.
 

fooyork

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While this isn't necessarily going to solve your issue, it should be noted that you can hit the TB to the left of the 'esc' 'key' and it will register as an esc hit.
 
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poorcody

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While this isn't necessarily going to solve your issue, it should be noted that you can hit the TB to the left of the 'esc' 'key' and it will register as an esc hit.
I use BTT and actually deleted the ESC key from the Touchbar because of this: it is always there on the far left, even if you can't see it.

I don't think there is any way to accomplish what you want without using BTT.

By the way, an alternative for getting function keys back is to map the number keys to send F-keys when you hold down the "fn" button. In other words, "fn-1" sends an "F1". You would need an app like BTT or Karabiner for that though.
 

laz232

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I use BTT and actually deleted the ESC key from the Touchbar because of this: it is always there on the far left, even if you can't see it.

I don't think there is any way to accomplish what you want without using BTT.

By the way, an alternative for getting function keys back is to map the number keys to send F-keys when you hold down the "fn" button. In other words, "fn-1" sends an "F1". You would need an app like BTT or Karabiner for that though.

OK thanks - do you know if anyone has have a ready script for BTT that I can just open that will align the ESC and Fn keys as per original post?
 

iMacDragon

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esc can't go further left, if you look at the bar the screen stops just next to where esca is, there is no actual screen right to the end of the bar space, so best that can be hoped to achieve would be to align the fn keys and move esc to wrong end I guess.
 
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laz232

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esc can't go further left, if you look at the bar the screen stops just next to where esca is, there is no actual screen right to the end of the bar space, so best that can be hoped to achieve would be to align the fn keys and move esc to wrong end I guess.

Thank you! That provides a definite answer to my question - I had not noticed that.
 

Ma2k5

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esc can't go further left, if you look at the bar the screen stops just next to where esca is, there is no actual screen right to the end of the bar space, so best that can be hoped to achieve would be to align the fn keys and move esc to wrong end I guess.

I thought I read a year or two ago that if you pressed to the left of the esc, the system still recognises it as an ESC press (even though the display stops at the ESC)? People were questioning Apple's design on this.
 

UnexpectedHuman

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I have already got so fed up of accidentally resting a finger on the touch-bar ESC key that I ended up using Karabiner Elements to (i) remap touch-bar ESC to FN, and (ii) remap the key above TAB (the rarely used paragraph symbol on my international-english layout) to ESC.

Now accidental light touches to the bar by accident do nothing dangerous and I have a real physical escape key in almost the correct position...
 
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Garywan

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I have already got so fed up of accidentally resting a finger on the touch-bar ESC key that I ended up using Karabiner Elements to (i) remap touch-bar ESC to FN, and (ii) remap the key above TAB (the rarely used paragraph symbol on my international-english layout) to ESC.

Now accidental light touches to the bar by accident do nothing dangerous and I have a real physical escape key in almost the correct position...
Can you explain specifically how you do that in Karabiner Elements?
 
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