But what is in number 3 place re mobile phone operating systems?Ha, the whole social construct is being remade to promote "number 3" as the desired position.
But what is in number 3 place re mobile phone operating systems?Ha, the whole social construct is being remade to promote "number 3" as the desired position.
They can only get favourable treatment if they can be identified!Doesn’t matter. As you can see, it will get favorable treatment.
Definitely, there’s never indication about what happens AFTER the fines are collected, how they are sent back to each of the “affected costumers that had to look for this cable instead of that one” or lost hair follicles because there’s only a single App Store (and only some of them, a single PlayStation store on Sony’s, or Nintendo eShop don’t get affected somehow).I still think a lot of this "regulation" business is about the fines they can collect.
This thread is about the UK not the EU.Pass the price of the fine onto the EU consumers. EU needs to put more energy into actually building products than they do telling other countries how to build them. Hopefully this one step will get more countries to exit the EU.
Or raise prices in the UK to offset the risk of doing business there.My guess is that what happens would be that the money they could possibly make in the UK would be overshadowed by the immense cost of doing business in the UK. The shareholders would demand that Apple not continue operations at a loss in the UK.
Posted to wrong post. Decided to just leave it. My bad but thank you for the heads up. 🤪Or raise prices in the UK to offset the risk of doing business there.
Oh ’they‘ are above being regulated, unlike the populace masses. Look across the pond at London Breed or Pelosi or Newsom who were caught disregarding the mandates they themselves advocated for.This from a govt who can't even regulate it's own inner circle of politicians to not have a party at Number 10 during a period when the rest of us were told we would be fined if we visited our own friends and families.
Because companies have to eitherHow can one country decide to fine a company 10% of their global annual turnover?
Companies just have to limit themselves to nine crimes a year.That just ridiculous.
what if 11 countries did that?
10% of Apple’s global turnover could pay for pretty much all the lawyers anyone could wish for, and with a sovereign currency and no moronic SGP-like limits they question is how confident they are they’ll ultimately win. Lack of resources is just a pretext for ignoring their mates’ crimes.i doubt this will get very far, the UK simply hasn’t got the resources to take on the big tech firms.
I think that’s referring to opaque sort functions and potential bias, which are much harder for the public to even detect, let alone avoid.We can choose our search engine in our browsers. Users need to learn accountablity.
We also have the potential for better FUTURE products as long as we keep letting Apple shoot themselves in the foot with their restrictive App Store. As Android has shown, there are BILLIONS of folks that have no interest in what Apple’s selling and would potentially be open to a game-changing newcomer. Give iOS the abilities of Android and Apple might be falling over themselves selling iPhones into the EU and UK in record breaking numbers.We definitely have better products with apple in complete control of their software and hardware. I feel safer with apple products because of this control. I hate when giver knows better and interferes with a great business practice that has proved safe for their customer. I don’t see apple bending on this one. Why penalize customers and companies. apple has an competitive edge because they’ve earned it.
That’s a good one, too, but would likely have the same effect Raise the price to make it match the fees, folks in the UK stops buying phones and shareholders say it’s no longer worth packing and shipping UK specific versions with sales so low.Or raise prices in the UK to offset the risk of doing business there.
This is horrid news and shows how out of touch the U.K government is, remember these are the same lot who sided with the grooming r * p e gangs of Rotherham and Rochdale and over 25 towns and counting.This is great news.
Because some people need protecting from themselves and you forget that if you were to use the iPhone as you please and install dodgy apps etc that could then put others like myself at risk if IOS were truly open.A trade deal with the US is smoke and mirrors. The US isn’t all that interested in it from what I can see even though we have a “special relationship”.
It’s interesting reading these articles on the EU and here the UK with some people saying they should exit these markets. These are massive markets for Apple but Americans are also missing that the US government is also looking into similar regulation of big tech. If Apple exit all these markets that want to regulate them they might as well move to China as it’ll be their only major market left.
Anyway cannot say I agree with everything here but ultimately all governments want to do for the most part is turn the phone into a computer. You can install software from anywhere on MacOS / Windows. MacOS has stayed pretty malware free and if you stick to just installing from the store you should be pretty safe overall. Phones are now major computing platforms so why should they not be as open?
For the most part I think this is good and with so many major markets now looking for similar changes, Apple won’t have any choice. The writing is on the wall here and I’d bet Apple are already working on iOS updates in secret to support this. I’d not expect them to roll it out until forced but let’s see what they announce at WWDC if that contains some steps towards more opening up.
Not when corrupt politicians get a taste for other people/company's money in which case even Apple will run out of cash!How can the US sentence and imprison people for more years than anyone has ever lived?
But back to topic: Even if 11 countries did that, Apple has enough cash reserves to pay the fines.
Also, these fines are hardly ever exhausted to the legal maximum - nor do they come out of nowhere.
Regulators will usually issue a friendly reminder to change / adjust business practises first.
And there’s always the choices of leaving - or obeying the law.
The point is that regulators claim they are saving us despite 99+% of us being happy with things as they are and are NOT in distress.Why are CDs stupid? Physical media (including "BlueRays") are technically superior, which is great for those who don't need the convenience of download-only.
Newsflash....ALL politicians are paid for by big corporations....including the U.K and EU!This is great news. If we have any hope of getting corporations under control, it will come from Europe. In the U.S., lawmakers are paid for by corporations and enact toothless "regulations" with small fines in the millions or tens of millions that are just like a small "fee" for screwing over consumers. If Apple was threatened with fines that could really matter, we could see more pro-consumer developments (alas, in Europe only).
There are also billions of people who REGRET going to Android and the countless dodgy apps that ruin their lives.We also have the potential for better FUTURE products as long as we keep letting Apple shoot themselves in the foot with their restrictive App Store. As Android has shown, there are BILLIONS of folks that have no interest in what Apple’s selling and would potentially be open to a game-changing newcomer. Give iOS the abilities of Android and Apple might be falling over themselves selling iPhones into the EU and UK in record breaking numbers.
One thing that those that want iOS wide open fail to understand about my position, as you mentioned, it potentially harms me. If apps I want/need decide to move to an alternate store, I’d be faced with with not using them or using them and being open to the spyware that they are sure to have.Because some people need protecting from themselves and you forget that if you were to use the iPhone as you please and install dodgy apps etc that could then put others like myself at risk if IOS were truly open.
Just look at what a nightmare mess Android is and how Google have been trying and failing for years to fix the problem.
Just use other apps then.™️If apps I want/need decide to move to an alternate store, I’d be faced with with not using them
There have been and are such apps in Apple's App Store todayor using them and being open to the spyware that they are sure to have.
There are very stringent privacy controls and sandboxing in iOS today.The only way I see it not harming me is if Apple were to allow users to implement full featured firewalls like macOS, so that trackers, spyware, analytics and the sort could be blocked.
But that would never happen because one thing is for sure
Reread what I wrote, not whatever false conclusion you came to regarding some type of comparison that was not made.There are very stringent privacy controls and sandboxing in iOS today.
More than on macOS, so your comparison is off.
The statement is a fallacy.The only way I see it not harming me is if Apple were to allow users to implement full featured firewalls like macOS, so that trackers, spyware, analytics and the sort could be blocked.
In order to "spy" on you, spyware needs access to other data on your phone (such as contacts, calendars, photos, location, etc.), i.e. to be allowed access out of its "sandbox". And that's the only somewhat reliable way to combat spyware: To prevent it from having access to sensitive data (or the internet) in the first place.spyware