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OverSpun

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Original poster
Sep 12, 2006
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California
Last week I thought I mainly needed the iOS 12.4 update. After some time, service came back. However, today I completely lost service including “no sim” “no service” and “sim failure”. Obviously the 12.4 did not help anything.

At this point I can only use WiFi. I live in SoCal, is anyone else dealing with this as well? Preferably if anyone knows a way to fix it.

I still have my eSim card and SIM card as well, have not needed the physical SIM in the phone since I got the eSim in December ‘18. Zero issues until recently.

Thanks
 

OverSpun

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Original poster
Sep 12, 2006
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California
Without service all day, I just reset the network and hard reset the phone.

Under Cellular “Turn On this line” it was off, I turned on the switch and a second screen let me activate my primary line and I have “some” service, only 1 bar but that’s a lot better than nothing.

5Ge is worse than LTE since ATT started this. I feel that att caused this service failure today.
 

OverSpun

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Original poster
Sep 12, 2006
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California
I still have intermittent service with No SIM, SIM failure, No Service. The phone has not worked normally since last week.
 

OverSpun

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Original poster
Sep 12, 2006
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California
I have resolved two issues and it only needs 1 post. I figured the no service issue myself by redoing my eSIM, Apple helped me to figure out the other issue. After a lot of research and nothing else resolved any of these issues before.

1. I removed and readded my eSIM and it seems to have resolved AT&T's 5Ge "upgrade". This may or not caused an iMessage issue and it stopped syncing between my MBP / Watch & Phone. I could only send SMSs from my phone.

2. "Waiting for activation" notification by turning on and off the iMessage trying to resolve the "waiting for activation" and making iMessage work again,

This can be resolved by going to the settings -> General -> Reset -> "Reset all Settings". You will need to redo your wallpaper, Face ID, Wallet cards, Control Center, Activate Locations, atrial fibrillation (If you have Watch 4) and WIFI and about nothing else.

My phone is still showing "Number changed to Primary" by sending or receiving SMSs. I'll make a post if I can figure it out.
 
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idgsd

macrumors newbie
Aug 29, 2018
14
3
California
Sorry to revive an old thread. I was battling this odd intermittent issue of my iPhone XS with AT&T esim losing carrier and having a hard time getting the carrier back. Tried all the tricks, airplane mode on/off, phone on/off, reboot, network reset, etc. At time it will regain network just to lose it again (after a week or so) with No Sim or Invalid Sim at times. Called Apple Customer Service for naught, AT&T resets my line and it worked for a day or two. Finally got tired of it when it happened again last week, went to an AT&T store (few are still open) and got a physical sim card and will deal with the issue when life is back to normal. Searched the web and it seems like a real issue. The common to the few reports are iPhone XS (XS Max), esim, and AT&T.
 

Cegonzalezc

macrumors newbie
May 17, 2020
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I am having the same issue running iOS 13.4.1 on an iPhone 11 Max Pro with ATT e-sim failure. Tried installing a new esim but the system will not let me stating that it is unsupported. I can’t even see a second line now when I go into settings>cellular.
 

idgsd

macrumors newbie
Aug 29, 2018
14
3
California
Interesting....Haven’t had any issues with my physical sim since I swapped my esim. Since I don’t expect to travel Internationally for a while, I see no reason to go back to esim anytime soon. When you get your issue resolved, I would appreciate an update.
 

nathanjbrown

macrumors 6502
Apr 9, 2008
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Santa Barbara, CA
I've been on the phone with AT&T for more than an hour (in total) this past week. I'm not getting any service on my eSIM (which worked fine for nearly a year) and various reps at AT&T are perplexed. The number associated with the physical SIM is working fine. One odd "clue" they're seeing on my account is that my two phone numbers are showing two different versions of iOS. One is 13.4.1 and the other is a previous version. That's apparently an oddity given that both numbers should reflect the same iOS version as both numbers are bonded to the same device (iPhone XS). Has anyone found a resolution for this? I'm about to call Apple... Thanks!
 

idgsd

macrumors newbie
Aug 29, 2018
14
3
California
My thought at the time, when it first happened, was to get my iPhone XS fully diagnosed at the local Apple store. Unfortunately the stores just closed. If there is an open Apple store nearby (the stores just opened, or about to open, here in San Diego) I recommend you get a full diagnostics at the store. When I called them at the time, they were unhelpful and sent me to AT&T. My second Sim (physical at the time) was an international Sim I use often when on vacation (I recharge it there). I removed it and replaced my AT&T eSim (my main account) with a physical Sim. No problem since.
 

idgsd

macrumors newbie
Aug 29, 2018
14
3
California
I've been on the phone with AT&T for more than an hour (in total) this past week. I'm not getting any service on my eSIM (which worked fine for nearly a year) and various reps at AT&T are perplexed. The number associated with the physical SIM is working fine. One odd "clue" they're seeing on my account is that my two phone numbers are showing two different versions of iOS. One is 13.4.1 and the other is a previous version. That's apparently an oddity given that both numbers should reflect the same iOS version as both numbers are bonded to the same device (iPhone XS). Has anyone found a resolution for this? I'm about to call Apple... Thanks!

What was the resolution of your case? A similar situation with my wife’s iPhone XS. Went to an AT&T corporate store and they couldn’t fix it and redo the esim. The only solution was to put in a physical sim (instead of an unused international sim she had there for a “safe keeping”). I had a somewhat similar situation with an iPhone XS, described elsewhere in the present conversation. I also converted to a physical sim, but recently got a new esim without any issues since. AT&T tried unsuccessfully to redo my wife’s esim. I think something is really flaky with iPhone XS and esim with AT&T.
 

clunkmess

macrumors 6502a
Jul 28, 2011
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California
This is happening to me now too. iPhone 11 Pro eSIM on AT&T. i was without service for nearly 4 hours today and nothing i did would bring it back. I’ve never had this issue until a couple days ago.
 

Wildyouth

macrumors newbie
Aug 14, 2020
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I created an account just to share my experience with resolving this issue - I too had problems with my eSIM on AT&T and had tried the troubleshooting tool with AT&T to attempt to self resolve and this forum was what made me decide to call AT&T to see if I needed to replace the esim and what my options were - just for clarity, I have an iPhone XS with dual carriers. Virgin mobile (now boost) only offers service with a physical Sim so I am locked to using my AT&T line with only eSIM. I tried a number of the resolutions above, I got my phone back on the network for a couple hours during the 3 days I have been down but it lost connection again. I suspect updating my phone to the latest IOS software may have been part of the solution (in my case 13.6.1).

After my troubleshooting with AT&T CSR they said I needed to replace my eSIM and would need to go to a store to do so (but I didn’t end up needing it after all) they tried to push an update while I was on the line with them, after hanging up with the CSR I finally got a carrier update notification on my phone (connected to WiFi of course) and After confirming to update I then restarted my phone and service was restored - it’s been working 24 hours now.

I’ll post back here if anything changes but so far so good. Hope it helps someone else here :)
 

idgsd

macrumors newbie
Aug 29, 2018
14
3
California
Re-doing the eSim has been working great for me for the last 2+ months. But, I am still uneasy that neither AT&T nor Apple are acknowledging the issue (at least when I spoke to them). I had no intention of upgrading to the iPhone 12, but this issue may change my mind (on the premise that the Qcom modem in the iPhone 12 may not have the problem).
 
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