Wasn’t this gen supposed to be Intel stomping all over the M lineup?
I swear every argument from the Intel camp is about “wait until 2 gens from now! Then Intel will destroy everyone else!” And it’s always 2 gens away.
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What is wrong with M3 Mac?
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I swear every argument from the Intel camp is about “wait until 2 gens from now! Then Intel will destroy everyone else!” And it’s always 2 gens away.
The only thing wrong is MaxTech. The M3 is a solid machine.
Right now, it's possible to shop for a refurbished M1 Pro MBP for cheaper than the M3 MBP, thus getting more ram, ports and better monitor support for less. But the main contention I keep seeing is that it costs too much for the 8gb of ram you are getting, and few seem willing to pay extra for more ram, when you can just pay a little bit more for the M3 Pro.
Binned M3 Pro is very close to M2 Max on many test. M3 in general is impressive.
Base M3 MacBook Pro has a better single core geekbench (for whatever that is worth to you) than every other Mac computer ever besides other M3 MacBook Pros, alongside longer battery life than any other MacBook Pro ever.
As someone shopping right now I wish I could buy an M3 Pro laptop with the ram and ssd I want, but the real steal right now price wise are discounted M2 Pro’s which are almost / basically M2 Max when looking at specs and also absolutely killer machines.
As someone shopping right now I wish I could buy an M3 Pro laptop with the ram and ssd I want, but the real steal right now price wise are discounted M2 Pro’s which are almost / basically M2 Max when looking at specs and also absolutely killer machines.
How clickbaits and youtubers works. Make a post claiming absolute opposite what everyone else is expecting. Find some stupid proof, so you dont look like absolute idiot. Create topic name and include Shocking, total disappoint etc….post it and grab money
Weird that he claims Intel has caught up yet he’s comparing the last gen M2 against the latest Intel Ultra 7. Also, why is he comparing battery life with laptops with 75 Wh batteries to the fanless 53 Wh M2 MacBook Air? Wouldn’t a better comparison be to an MacBook Pro M3 Pro with a still smaller than 75 Wh but more comparable 70 Wh battery?
In performance class, most of the new Meteor Lakes are positioned against the M3 Pro. However, when it comes to price, they are competing directly against the base M-series. The comparison does make sense IMO.
I believe they try to sound and look sincere, but if you were to read & listen to what they are actually saying - they often are absolutely idiotic. “I know since I have 2 computer science degrees”
Their single core and GPU performance (2x Raptor/Alder Lake GPU is still trash, Just like prior Intel GPU releases synthetic benchmarks like Timespy don't directly translate to better gaming performance as the AMD GPU is still beating Meteor lake despite having worse synthetic scores) is still pretty bad and most of the benchmarks are being run at higher power modes which means much less battery life than M3. I also want to see the difference in video encoding between M3 and Meteor Lake. Meteor Lake does have an AV1 encoder built in which is a major miss on the M3 chips.
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It comes down to Apple's decision to only make 16gb versions of the M3 as BTO, therefore mostly zero discounts. Right now, you can get the M3Pro base 18gb config for $1749 which is cheaper than an upgraded BTO M3 base with 16gb of ram.
EDIT: spoke too soon, pcconnection now has the M3 base with 16gb for the same price as stock.
As you well know, Apple's price isn't solely tied to performance. Overall better build quality, higher resolution and brighter screens, and better sound just cost more and lead to higher resale value. If we are talking about performance and battery life then it should a comparison based on performance. If we are talking about value or product segmentation then including the price as part of the equation is fine. And even if they are competing against only the base M series, they should still be comparing the current gen M3 and not the M2 to be fair.