What's the current state of MacPorts on Tiger?

[danielktdoranie]

I am running 10.4.11 on my PowerBook G4 15" 1.33 GHz ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (I have a 64GB SSD installed and 256 MB RAM, two 1 GB sticks on the way).

QUESTION: What's the current state of MacPorts on Tiger? I ask because neofetch is not working I installed Xcode and installed the MacPorts-2.9.0-10.4-Tiger.dmg I run sudo port -v selfupdate and it looks like it updated... I ran sudo port install mpstats and that went okay but when I went to install neofetch it borked and gave me this:

daniel-dorans-powerbook-g4-15:~ daniel$ sudo port install neofetch Password: ---> Fetching archive for neofetch ---> Attempting to fetch neofetch-7.1.0_0.any_any.noarch.tbz2 from http://packages.macports.org/neofetch ---> Attempting to fetch neofetch-7.1.0_0.any_any.noarch.tbz2.rmd160 from http://packages.macports.org/neofetch ---> Installing neofetch @7.1.0_0 ---> Activating neofetch @7.1.0_0 ---> Cleaning neofetch daniel-dorans-powerbook-g4-15:~ daniel$ neofetch /opt/local/bin/neofetch: line 42: shopt: nocasematch: invalid shell option name /opt/local/bin/neofetch: line 1359: conditional binary operator expected /opt/local/bin/neofetch: line 1359: syntax error near `=~' /opt/local/bin/neofetch: line 1359: ` [[ $os =~ (AIX|IRIX) ]] && return'

So I am no developer but it looks like MacPorts is installing neofetch for AIX or IRIX operating systems? I wonder why that would even be in the repo to begin with?

If it helps to know, I installed all the updates Software Update provided.

Thanks!

 

[Nightphase]

You have to install an updated version of bash.

Do

sudo port install bash

and edit

/etc/shells

to add

/opt/local/bin/bash

Now do

chsh -s /opt/local/bin/bash

and

sudo chsh -s /opt/local/bin/bash

and that should fix it.

 

[danielktdoranie]

You have to install an updated version of bash.

Do

sudo port install bash

and edit

/etc/shells

to add

/opt/local/bin/bash

Now do

chsh -s /opt/local/bin/bash

and

sudo chsh -s /opt/local/bin/bash

and that should fix it.

Thanks for the reply. I talked to a Unix wizard friend of mine who suggested the same.

I ran

sudo port install bash

and it ran all night, in the morning I saw this...

Error: libgcc7 cannot be built while libunwind-headers is active.
Error: Please forcibly deactivate libunwind-headers, e.g. by running:
Error:
Error:     sudo port -f deactivate libunwind-headers
Error:
Error: Then try again. You can reactivate libunwind-headers again later.
Error: Failed to configure libgcc7: libunwind-headers is active

So I ran

sudo port -f deactivate libunwind-headers

Then I ran

sudo port install bash

and it's still running now about 9 hours later, no errors yet.

I made another post here about cross compiling Mac PowerPC Mac OS X code on a modern Apple Silicon Mac... you don't know anything about doing that do you?

Thanks!

 

[danielktdoranie]

Just to update this, should anyone else attempt the same on their G4 Mac, I am documenting my experience in this thread as I go.

So when I first tried installing /upgrading bash I was doing so on Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger… after waiting 8 hours for it to build the G4 PowerBook 15” rebooted on it’s own (BTW this G4 PowerBook 15” passed full hardware tests already and an extensive RAM test, the random reboot was due to a software issue I believe)… after that I gave up on Tiger, wiped the SSD, installed Mac OS X 10.5.8 and Xcode 3.14 (I understand this to be the last Xcode version to support Power PC Mac OS X 10.5.8 G4 Macs).

Right now as apart of installing bash it is updating to gcc7. It’s been installing the last 24 hours and still going… this G4 PowerBook Pro now has 2 GB RAM installed (maxed out).

 

[Nightphase]

Just to update this, should anyone else attempt the same on their G4 Mac, I am documenting my experience in this thread as I go.

So when I first tried installing /upgrading bash I was doing so on Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger… after waiting 8 hours for it to build the G4 PowerBook 15” rebooted on it’s own (BTW this G4 PowerBook 15” passed full hardware tests already and an extensive RAM test, the random reboot was due to a software issue I believe)… after that I gave up on Tiger, wiped the SSD, installed Mac OS X 10.5.8 and Xcode 3.14 (I understand this to be the last Xcode version to support Power PC Mac OS X 10.5.8 G4 Macs).

Right now as apart of installing bash it is updating to gcc7. It’s been installing the last 24 hours and still going… this G4 PowerBook Pro now has 2 GB RAM installed (maxed out).

gcc7 took 24hr on my MDD, but it was worth it to run modern CLI programs on Tiger

 

[barracuda156]

I am running 10.4.11 on my PowerBook G4 15" 1.33 GHz ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (I have a 64GB SSD installed and 256 MB RAM, two 1 GB sticks on the way).

QUESTION: What's the current state of MacPorts on Tiger?

I am afraid, it is pretty broken there, for the most part.

See, for example:

#67248 (grep/coreutils: tiger: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'mcontext64_t') – MacPorts

trac.macports.org

#68964 (texinfo @7.1 fails to build on Tiger: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'mcontext64_t') – MacPorts

trac.macports.org

And some of those are fundamental ports.

And then multiple non-critical ports won’t build:

#67274 (R-ps fails to build on Tiger: macos.c: fatal error: libproc.h: No such file or directory #include <libproc.h>) – MacPorts

trac.macports.org

#67275 (R-fs fails to build on Tiger (in libuv): error: void value not ignored as it ought to be if (unsetenv(name) != 0)) – MacPorts

trac.macports.org

God know how many, since nobody actively tests anything there perhaps for years. I tried for R ecosystem when added it to Macports, but gave up quickly since found it too troublesome to fix.

Why don’t you switch to 10.5.8? It is in a far better shape.

 

[Nightphase]

I updated MacPorts on my PBG4 running 10.4.11, all installed packages upgraded succesfully without a hitch.

curl, OpenSSL, git, wget, lynx, bash, ecc...

 

[danielktdoranie]

Thanks for the replies all. . I actually moved on to OpenBSD 7.4. Before that I did install Mac OS X 10.5.8 Leopard but the compile time was going on for more than 2 days on my PowerBook G4 15" (w/ 2GB RAM and a SSD). I gave up and moved on to OpenBSD 7.4. I'll use another PowerPC Mac for OS X abandonware. It would be great to have pre-compiled binaries like we get with OpenBSD or some sort of working cross compiler with PowerPC Mac OS X 32-bit as target.

 

[Compay]

I encountered the same problem on my MDD G4 1.25Ghz and after a bit of frustration and googling I found a solution in a discussion here: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/infoppc. Indeed it is the old bash version as suggested earlier that is the problem, and a newer (compiled!) version (4.3.30) can be downloaded here: http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-security-blanket-blues-revisited-or.html

 

[danielktdoranie]

I encountered the same problem on my MDD G4 1.25Ghz and after a bit of frustration and googling I found a solution in a discussion here: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/infoppc. Indeed it is the old bash version as suggested earlier that is the problem, and a newer (compiled!) version (4.3.30) can be downloaded here: http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-security-blanket-blues-revisited-or.html

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That is handy... now we just need the latest gcc (gcc12) and the libs compiled

 

[barracuda156]

That is handy... now we just need the latest gcc (gcc12) and the libs compiled

Latest gcc is 13.2.0, 14 upcoming.

 

[danielktdoranie]

Latest gcc is 13.2.0, 14 upcoming.

Okay... great.

 

[barracuda156]

or some sort of working cross compiler with PowerPC Mac OS X 32-bit as target.

This should be doable: http://maniacsvault.net/articles/powerpccross

Discussion re pre-built ports: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/66288

 

[barracuda156]

Thanks for the replies all. . I actually moved on to OpenBSD 7.4. Before that I did install Mac OS X 10.5.8 Leopard but the compile time was going on for more than 2 days on my PowerBook G4 15" (w/ 2GB RAM and a SSD). I gave up and moved on to OpenBSD 7.4. I'll use another PowerPC Mac for OS X abandonware

This is a bit unfair LOL

Not everything is abandonware: we actively support PowerPC, add new ports, fix ports which were ever broken. In some aspects Macports on PowerPC is vastly superior to any other system. (For example, R and Lisp.)

 

[Nightphase]

I have several compiled programs on Tiger PPC that would require a lot of time compiling on different machines (ex. gcc7 took 20 hours on MDD). Is it possible to share them as a tarball or something else? I used rsync to transfer /opt/local to my PowerBook G4 and they work fine

 

[barracuda156]

I have several compiled programs on Tiger PPC that would require a lot of time compiling on different machines (ex. gcc7 took 20 hours on MDD). Is it possible to share them as a tarball or something else? I used rsync to transfer /opt/local to my PowerBook G4 and they work fine

Do you still have those? If yes, you can use local archives: https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/ShareArchives2

Bonjour did not work for me on 10.6 ppc, but using IP did. I installed ports on a PowerBook from G5 Quad this way.

 

[Nightphase]

Do you still have those? If yes, you can use local archives: https://trac.macports.org/wiki/howto/ShareArchives2

Bonjour did not work for me on 10.6 ppc, but using IP did. I installed ports on a PowerBook from G5 Quad this way.

I'm updating these packages right now on my PBG4! I will check out on the link you posted

 

[Nightphase]

These are the archives of gcc7.5.0 and git 2.43.2 from my Tiger machine, can anyone try if they work?
gcc7: https://mega.nz/file/2dESXA4T#OAIuePFIA_hSVcwOLFxxTgw19bihf_NC06GV1sdFK0Q
git: https://mega.nz/file/GZVEHbpJ#5t1yQo4eFgvbrBvfm8vIqsr74MIUBl91tQibeHNIaM8

 

[barracuda156]

These are the archives of gcc7.5.0 and git 2.43.2 from my Tiger machine, can anyone try if they work?
gcc7: https://mega.nz/file/2dESXA4T#OAIuePFIA_hSVcwOLFxxTgw19bihf_NC06GV1sdFK0Q
git: https://mega.nz/file/GZVEHbpJ#5t1yQo4eFgvbrBvfm8vIqsr74MIUBl91tQibeHNIaM8

I can check if my Tiger has the up-do-date gcc7, in which case I can upload the pre-built port, FWIW. Not today, no access to that machine.
git is a few minutes thing to build, why even bother with a transfer?

P. S. I encourage to move to 10.5.8, unless you have some software which is incompatible with Leopard.

 

[danielktdoranie]

This is a bit unfair LOL

Not everything is abandonware: we actively support PowerPC, add new ports, fix ports which were ever broken. In some aspects Macports on PowerPC is vastly superior to any other system. (For example, R and Lisp.)

I didn’t say everything was abandonware did I? I was referring to abandonware that’s actually abandonware. Like productivity software and games from the early 00s that I like. I was not referring to software actively being supported or developed for Mac OS X PowerPC