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WhatsApp, Other Messaging Apps Sign Open Letter Urging UK Government to Rethink 'Surveillance' Bill
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The difference between Apple's failed approach and what I understand about the UK's approach is that Apple wanted to scan imagines stored, but not necessarily transmitted in iCloud. The UK wants to scan images *sent* through one of these apps. Is that correct?
As long as the system only looks for images of kids that are transmitted and doesn't proactively scan for data stored on my phone or cloud accounts then I think I will break from the consensus and say this is reasonable.
These messaging platforms have become a perfect method for pretty horrible child abuse. It's one thing to stand up on a soapbox but how would you feel if you found out your own child was abused in this way and now they would never be the same happy kid they once were? I bet you'd be furious and devastated.
As long as the system only looks for images of kids that are transmitted and doesn't proactively scan for data stored on my phone or cloud accounts then I think I will break from the consensus and say this is reasonable.
These messaging platforms have become a perfect method for pretty horrible child abuse. It's one thing to stand up on a soapbox but how would you feel if you found out your own child was abused in this way and now they would never be the same happy kid they once were? I bet you'd be furious and devastated.
What about it do you consider failed? It‘s been implemented & in place since Monterey/iOS16.
I worked for a major UK ISP and was shown things I can't discuss, but let's just say it was something similar and this was several years ago. Dread to think what they do now.
Still personally I don't care and it is a big battle with these Wattsapp etc systems encrypting data, because criminals use them, fact. I don't have anything to hide though.
UKs so soft on crime these days though it's plain ludicrous. So even if they catch the criminals the sentences are pathetically weak.
I've had this discussion before as the rights to privacy has been brought up in this forum many times before and you would be horrified to learn that some members put their right to privacy as 'absolute', even if it comes at the expense of child safety so from someone who has gone through this discussion before, do not go there because you will learn, people just do not care.
I've abandoned it. I kept the account as annoyingly I need it for ad publishing, but the account is no longer active. I find YouTube is more entertaining these day!
The reality is, sideloading has been about since the dawn of Android, so it's nothing new, so I only partially agree with your comments.
Apple is only being forced to play fair, so terrorists can be a little more fashionable about their phone choices.
All the biggest crimes in UK start at the top with the Tories.
Tory politicians are the only people who should have no privacy.
They took dirty money from the Russian oligarchs for so many years.
Then they started to take laundered dirty money from crypto people and bitfinex/tether.
Then they started taking dirty money from the Singapore mafia in exchange for selling UK assets to the cartels.
These crooks want no encryption for UK citizens but full privacy for themselves.
Like this they can silence the citizens and continue their crimes.
Tory politicians are the only people who should have no privacy.
They took dirty money from the Russian oligarchs for so many years.
Then they started to take laundered dirty money from crypto people and bitfinex/tether.
Then they started taking dirty money from the Singapore mafia in exchange for selling UK assets to the cartels.
These crooks want no encryption for UK citizens but full privacy for themselves.
Like this they can silence the citizens and continue their crimes.
Jesus wept, I dunno where people get this crap from.
So those seven million cameras are all state sponsored are they?
I dunno if this makes sense…there are already end to end encrypted ways to chat so what would side loading meaningfully change for an already existing and difficult to catch band of terrorists or child abusers?
For my law abiding self I may finally get a gameboy emulator for my iPhone 😌
All of parliament is corrupt to its core. Labour is just as bad. And now look at the SNP. They are all filthy.
But since when have we ever had a “clean” government. Power and money corrupts.
Nothing is bad as the Tories. They are the most elitist racist pond scum in Europe. Free movement and free trade for their rich friends but not for the citizens.
Blair was just a Tory wearing a Labour tie.
So, does this matter if they push Apple to allows side loading anyway? I mean, this hurts legit companies with apps. But, then if you can sideload, those people they are trying to catch/monitor will just use a side loaded app that encrypts anyway. Won't matter with Apple or What's App does. Basically, they will only monitor the people not trying to hide.
Wonder whether there will be any impact by this letter. Hopefully UK reconsiders the bill.
The idea behind appointing corrupt people into power is having the ability to "pull the strings" and make them do what you want them to do.
The problem with this approach is(what we can clearly see now) that you end up with a generation of degenerate politicians who are not able to think and make real decisions in a very difficult times.
All customers data transmitted through the network. Calls, SMS, emails, device ID's, internet data, geolocation data etc etc. Everything.
In order to access the data they technically had to apply through the court and a judge would need to sign it off, but they only did this occasionally for some access requests. There was literally nothing stopping them combing through the data at will.
It is always under the guise of “think of the children.”