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crowe-t

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Will Adobe CS5 work on OS Monterey? I currently have a Mac Mini running OS 10.6.8. I don't use Illustrator and Photoshop often and only do small things with it.

I'm planning on getting an M1 Mac Mini soon.
 

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From what I have read on these forums, CS6 doesn't work with M1 macs.
So CS5 definitely not.

Affinity Photo and Designer are nice alternatives to the Adobe products.

Edit: I think also the Adobe apps are 32bit, which will only work up to Mojave.
 
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From what I have read on these forums, CS6 doesn't work with M1 macs.
So CS5 definitely not.

Affinity Photo and Designer are nice alternatives to the Adobe products.

While I don't have an M1 Studio ... yet, I have been slowly moving over to the Affinity line of products. Bought them all and have no complaints. It is different, and since I have been using PS since version 4... there is a lot to unlearn and try to relearn in the Affinity way of doing things.
 

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Does Affinity Designer have a Live Trace feature like Illustrator? I use Live Trace a lot in Illustrator?

Is Affinity Photo and Designer a lot different than Photo Shop and Illustrator?

I don't use them enough to justify renting them by the month from Adobe. I'd rather buy the programs once.
 

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Will Adobe CS5 work on OS Monterey?
No, macOS Mohave 10.14.x is the last version that works. I do recommend macOS Sierra 10.12.x or below, as CS doesn't work well with APFS and should be used on HFS+.
Does Affinity Designer have a Live Trace feature like Illustrator?
Not yet and there is there is no roadmap for such a feature. Try something like Vector Magic.
Is Affinity Photo and Designer a lot different than Photo Shop and Illustrator?
Yes, it takes some time to get comfortable with Affinity apps.

Maybe also take a look at Inkscape, Krita and Scribus.
 
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Will Adobe CS5 work on OS Monterey?
Mojave is the last OSX that will run Adobe Creative Suite (dvd) even 6 because that is 32 bits.
I used Corel draw in 1997=99 and was not thrilled, maybe they improved.
while Affinity is good, but hard to get used to tasks like fill tool and naming layers
Krita crashes a lot and the other 2 i have not tried.

hope this helped!
 

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Corel Draw while a good application does things in a completely different way. We used to support Corel ages ago and man was it an adjustment every time I moved from the Adobe Suite to work on Corel. I phased it out completely, kept one version but did not support any newer versions. To me the Affinity lineup is similar to Adobe in the way it does it. There is definitely a learning curve but it is pretty impressive software for the price. Not something I would replace Adobe CC with, but if I was not making my living with Adobe and doing little odd work here and there I would probably look to switch to Affinity.

CS5 is pretty ancient software and is all 32bit. CS6 brought out a 64 bit version of Photoshop, I can't recall if Illustrator got a 64 bit update or not, thinking not. I know Indesign did not go 64 bit till CC.
 

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I can't recall if Illustrator got a 64 bit update or not, thinking not.
Adobe Illustrator CS6 16.0.4 is reported 64 bit by Activity Monitor. Although the app itself is 64 bit, I guess there are still 32 bit frameworks or plugins like "adobe_licutil" and "CS6ServiceManager" interacting with each CS6 app, so that they won't run properly on a 64-bit-only macOS beyond macOS Mohave 10.14.x. The required HFS+ filesystem isn't available on newer macOS versions, too.
 

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One issue with the old CS apps was/is that the apps were ported to 64bit earlier than the installers. There was a time when you could upgrade the OS with CS apps already installed and they would work fine, but you couldn't reinstall them or install them to a new machine.
 

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you couldn't reinstall them or install them to a new machine.
You can execute the installers without the GUI-wrapper in Terminal.
 

crowe-t

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Corel Draw while a good application does things in a completely different way. We used to support Corel ages ago and man was it an adjustment every time I moved from the Adobe Suite to work on Corel. I phased it out completely, kept one version but did not support any newer versions. To me the Affinity lineup is similar to Adobe in the way it does it. There is definitely a learning curve but it is pretty impressive software for the price. Not something I would replace Adobe CC with, but if I was not making my living with Adobe and doing little odd work here and there I would probably look to switch to Affinity.

CS5 is pretty ancient software and is all 32bit. CS6 brought out a 64 bit version of Photoshop, I can't recall if Illustrator got a 64 bit update or not, thinking not. I know Indesign did not go 64 bit till CC.
I'm not a graphic designer but do use Illustrator for simple designs. I really like Illustrator's Live Trace feature. I don't believe Affinity Designer has a type of Live Trace feature. I think Corel Draw does.
 

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I'm not a graphic designer but do use Illustrator for simple designs. I really like Illustrator's Live Trace feature. I don't believe Affinity Designer has a type of Live Trace feature. I think Corel Draw does.
Tracing in Corel is really good. You can get ok results in Illustrator but for things I need better quality tracing I go to Corel to get the job done.
 

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running iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) Monterey 12.5 (21G72) with Illustrator 2020 v24.0.3, works fine.
 

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running iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) Monterey 12.5 (21G72) with Illustrator 2020 v24.0.3, works fine.
Any version of Adobe CC from the last couple of years should work fine. CS5 is what the OP asked about and that is a gamble.
 

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No, macOS Mohave 10.14.x is the last version that works. I do recommend macOS Sierra 10.12.x or below, as CS doesn't work well with APFS and should be used on HFS+.

Not yet and there is there is no roadmap for such a feature. Try something like Vector Magic.

Yes, it takes some time to get comfortable with Affinity apps.

Maybe also take a look at Inkscape, Krita and Scribus.
Is there any major problems running CS5 on Mohave 10.14.x?
 

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I have only used Photoshop Extended CS5 in Mojave.
Worked fine, just had to install the legacy Java runtime.

I moved to Affinity products though a few year ago.
 
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Is there any major problems running CS5 on Mohave 10.14.x?
Speaking for CS5.5, you can run all main apps and get your work done. There are some tweaks, e.g. for a better view of Adobe Illustrator CS5.1 font menu. You don't need to install legacy Java runtime. Creating empty Java runtime folders is all it needs.
Sometimes CS apps are crashing on starting up or quitting and occasionally there are macOS crashes with kernel panics and restarts on a MBP 2019 with T1 chip. What didn't work for me was Adobe Acrobat Pro XI, so I do use Adobe Acrobat Pro 2020 and before the update I ran version 2017 (all TLP perpetual license).
The major problem is macOS Mohave itself. As you need to run it with an unsupported HFS+ filesystem, to get a productive Adobe Creative Suite 5 or 6, updating macOS is a hassle, as it just works on APFS. However, there are no more macOS Mohave updates and so that's more or less a problem of the past.
Concluding, if you can run CS5 or 6 on macOS Sierra 10.12.x, I'd recommend doing so. If you must run it on macOS Mohave, it works, but you should test, if it really works for you.
 

crowe-t

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Speaking for CS5.5, you can run all main apps and get your work done. There are some tweaks, e.g. for a better view of Adobe Illustrator CS5.1 font menu. You don't need to install legacy Java runtime. Creating empty Java runtime folders is all it needs.
Sometimes CS apps are crashing on starting up or quitting and occasionally there are macOS crashes with kernel panics and restarts on a MBP 2019 with T1 chip. What didn't work for me was Adobe Acrobat Pro XI, so I do use Adobe Acrobat Pro 2020 and before the update I ran version 2017 (all TLP perpetual license).
The major problem is macOS Mohave itself. As you need to run it with an unsupported HFS+ filesystem, to get a productive Adobe Creative Suite 5 or 6, updating macOS is a hassle, as it just works on APFS. However, there are no more macOS Mohave updates and so that's more or less a problem of the past.
Concluding, if you can run CS5 or 6 on macOS Sierra 10.12.x, I'd recommend doing so. If you must run it on macOS Mohave, it works, but you should test, if it really works for you.
Where did you put the empty Java runtime folders?
 
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