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tonybarnaby

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That would be more valuable to me than battery health, since I’m not really 100% on board with believing those results. Battery cycle count doesn’t lie. I don’t have a Mac, so coconut battery is out. If they provide a health estimate, it seems very odd not to include cycle count as well.
 

Whoakapi

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If you cycle your battery between 40 and 60% only, you could potentially reach thousands of cycles with low capacity degradation. Of course time and temperatures also comes into play.

I know this is a highly unrealistic scenario. But my point is that battery cycles in itself are kind of useless. You need to look at a combined set of factors.

For iOS12 I am still able to check cycle count on my PC with iBackupbot.
 

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If you have a Mac you can download Coconut Battery. It shows you various battery stats for the iOS Device connected and the Mac if it has a battery.
 

FeliApple

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It did up to iOS 9.3.5, but I don't think they'll ever allow it again. As it has been said, you can do it through Coconut Battery on a Mac.
 

verdejt

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In IOS 11 and up if you go to settings and battery there is a section called battery health and see how much life your battery has left.
 

FeliApple

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In IOS 11 and up if you go to settings and battery there is a section called battery health and see how much life your battery has left.
No, the new feature allows you to check battery health, but not cycle count.
 

verdejt

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No, the new feature allows you to check battery health, but not cycle count.
Right after I posted that and engaged my brain I realized the OP was asking about Cycle Counts and not health. Coconut battery is free and works good for this. No substitute for a native IOS app but it does work.
 

FeliApple

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Right after I posted that and engaged my brain I realized the OP was asking about Cycle Counts and not health. Coconut battery is free and works good for this. No substitute for a native IOS app but it does work.
Coconut Battery is a great app! I definitely recommend it.
An iOS app called battery life works perfectly but you have to be on iOS 9 or older...
 

Falhófnir

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Cycle count is only one variable that feeds into overall battery degradation, it’s probably one of the metrics the ‘battery health’ feature uses. Just going by cycle count alone tells you basically nothing.
 
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decafjava

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iBackupbot for Windows users, Coconut battery for Mac users. Sadly no way to do this natively in iOS anymore but as others have said just cycle count needs to be taken in context with other factors as well to get an idea of battery health.
 

janeauburn

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While it doesn't do various other things...

None of which matter to me.
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Cycle count is only one variable that feeds into overall battery degradation, it’s probably one of the metrics the ‘battery health’ feature uses. Just going by cycle count alone tells you basically nothing.

But it helps. So there's no reason not to give users access to that information.
 
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Falhófnir

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But it helps. So there's no reason not to give users access to that information.
Helps with what exactly? Sure Apple says after 1,000 charge cycles your device should still have at least 80% design capacity, so when you’re at 900+ you can assume you’re probably in that ballpark range, but do you know what’s better? The software actually measuring battery health and giving you a personalised indication based on cycle count and everything else that can be a factor in battery wear. When Apple have gone to great lengths to make and give you a specialised tool why cast it aside for a sledgehammer?
 
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curtis242

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I agree we need more information about the state of the battery from battery health and its not accurate either mine 6 month old iPhone X is saying its at 95% i’ve checked it with ibackupbot an it says the current full capacity of the battery is 2715 from the design capacity of 2716.
I’ve even had this confirmed by a diagnostics test from the apple store the guy said they have had a lot of people in because of the battery health reporting the state of the battery is lower than what it acutally is
 

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Helps with what exactly? Sure Apple says after 1,000 charge cycles your device should still have at least 80% design capacity, so when you’re at 900+ you can assume you’re probably in that ballpark range, but do you know what’s better? The software actually measuring battery health and giving you a personalised indication based on cycle count and everything else that can be a factor in battery wear. When Apple have gone to great lengths to make and give you a specialised tool why cast it aside for a sledgehammer?
I believe that's 500 cycles.
 
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